Manual CSL

The Gorilla · 23-01-2010, 04:12 PM

Hi,

Does anybody here know of
anybody anywhere running a
Manual CSL with the Siemens
MSS54 CSL ECU please ?

I know of a couple of S54
Track/Race cars with Manual
not sequential G/boxes but they
run aftermarket ECU.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

NZ_M3 · 24-01-2010, 10:05 PM

I have a feeling that the physical DME is actually exactly the same between the SMG and Non SMG cars (in the stock M3) - it's the programming that is different.

What about running a manual DME from a normal M3 and reflashing it with the CSL mapping? Sure it's a slower ECU and might not cope, but who knows? If it can work for those retro fitting the CSL intake I see no reason why it won't actually run a real CSL converted into 6 speed manual.

The DSC would be an issue though - but if you can track down a Competition version ECU with the M track mode and 6 speed manual and just reflash it with the CSL mapping you'd be home and away I think !! That would be the closest to the CSL without the SMG portion.

The Gorilla · 24-01-2010, 11:15 PM

Hi,

NZ_M3- What you suggest makes sense.

I know of a couple of SMG M3's
that were converted to manual
and they had issues with the
data links in the looms/harness etc.

The E60 M5 in the States is available
with a 6 speed Manual box and they
also have the DSC working, but that
is on the MS S65 ECU/DME which
is much more powerful than the
MSS54 ECU/DME.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Thorney · 25-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Yes, customer of ours has done it himself and we've done a couple. It needs the complete CSL engine loom, ECU and airbox to work. You essentially re-program the DEM from M3 to CSL

23-01-2010, 04:12 PM	#1
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Manual CSL Hi, Does anybody here know of anybody anywhere running a Manual CSL with the Siemens MSS54 CSL ECU please ? I know of a couple of S54 Track/Race cars with Manual not sequential G/boxes but they run aftermarket ECU. Any help or pointers appreciated. Regards, The Gorilla.

24-01-2010, 10:05 PM	#2
NZ_M3 S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,434 Casino cash: $13579	I have a feeling that the physical DME is actually exactly the same between the SMG and Non SMG cars (in the stock M3) - it's the programming that is different. What about running a manual DME from a normal M3 and reflashing it with the CSL mapping? Sure it's a slower ECU and might not cope, but who knows? If it can work for those retro fitting the CSL intake I see no reason why it won't actually run a real CSL converted into 6 speed manual. The DSC would be an issue though - but if you can track down a Competition version ECU with the M track mode and 6 speed manual and just reflash it with the CSL mapping you'd be home and away I think !! That would be the closest to the CSL without the SMG portion. Last edited by NZ_M3; 24-01-2010 at 10:10 PM.

25-01-2010, 12:01 PM	#4
Thorney S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 469 Casino cash: $3876	Yes, customer of ours has done it himself and we've done a couple. It needs the complete CSL engine loom, ECU and airbox to work. You essentially re-program the DEM from M3 to CSL __________________ http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk

24-01-2010, 11:15 PM	#3
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, NZ_M3- What you suggest makes sense. I know of a couple of SMG M3's that were converted to manual and they had issues with the data links in the looms/harness etc. The E60 M5 in the States is available with a 6 speed Manual box and they also have the DSC working, but that is on the MS S65 ECU/DME which is much more powerful than the MSS54 ECU/DME. Regards, The Gorilla.