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Old 26-04-2009, 08:39 PM   #1
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Guys an gals, im thinking of buying a csl,

Im torn between keeping my evo, (esp after reading comparison on this site on other post).

I will be putting ap's and kw if i do buy, but will i be making the right decision,

There is one particular csl which is drawing my attention, anyone know it as dont want to waste a journey from liverpool to london to view a dog, as i viewed a dog recently and was not impressed, it was described as mint

any info on this car would be great,

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/968144.htm
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:11 PM   #2
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the csl is far more involving and rewarding to drive and easier to live with
i have had 6 or 7 evo's i love them before the csl i could not find anything to compare.

the only small fly in the ointment is the money i think the main reason some people have gone evo to csl then back to evo is because given the current climate evo's are totally amazing value for money there was an ix fq340 on ebay this week for £14k and a ix gt on the mlr for the same whereas csl's are holding there value, i might have to do the same as im buying a property at the mo

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Old 26-04-2009, 09:21 PM   #3
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Seems a very good price with the F/B APs and mileage in the best colour choice Just checked 3 previous owners too. It looks a blinder!

not yours by any chance ha ha,
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:21 PM   #4
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Seems a very good price with the F/B APs, low mileage & in the best colour choice Just checked 3 previous owners too. It looks a blinder!
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:25 PM   #5
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the csl is far more involving and rewarding to drive and easier to live with
i have had 6 or 7 evo's i love them before the csl i could not find anything to compare.

the only small fly in the ointment is the money i think the main reason some people have gone evo to csl then back to evo is because given the current climate evo's are totally amazing value for money there was an ix fq340 on ebay this week for £14k and a ix gt on the mlr for the same whereas csl's are holding there value, i might have to do the same as im buying a property at the mo

just my opion of course

Its not the financial side its the speed side, dont really want to be slower in the csl, my evo is 450bhp, i understand totally different driving styles etc etc from evo to csl,

Im just not sure, its really doing my head in at the moment,
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:30 PM   #6
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Looks similar & might even make an offer as a run around to keep the mileage down on mine as coming up to 30k. A great investment thou. I rate them in a different league to an Evo. Perhaps because I havent been there, but have added class..
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:39 PM   #7
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lawsy - don't base your decision on my data logger post comparing the two. That was for fun - for one thing it was on different days so the track conditions were different (although both dry). The other is that its mostly down to driver as well - if you were basing a decision purely on what I'd posted then you'd have to come to the following conclusions:

1. The Evo is faster in a straight line (more bhp and torque)
2. The CSL on 888s corners as well as, sometimes better/faster than the Evo on Slicks, therefore the CSL must corner much better than an Evo if it was on slicks as well
3. The CSL allows you to brake later than the Evo
4. The Evo has a higher corner entry speed but the CSL has caught up mid corner.

All of which is bollocks - the only thing in the list above that you can compare is the fact that the Evo is clearly faster in a straight line. The rest is down to differences in the driver and driving style. If my data logs were the same (professional) driver who was experienced in both cars and was driving both logs on the same day, then yes you could compare them. Unfortunately neither the Evo driver nor I are pros, well perhaps drinking pros

They are both great cars and I imagine you will have fun with either - obviously I'm biased to the CSL as I love RWD, but as ever the choice is yours!
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Looks similar & might even make an offer as a run around to keep the mileage down on mine as coming up to 30k. A great investment thou. I rate them in a different league to an Evo. Perhaps because I havent been there, but have added class..
I know what you mean about differences between the 2,, but class knows no boundaries, the evo is serious tool, easier to drive than the csl on the limit but still a very good car, and extremely fast.

I may call him about the csl, with possibility of a viewing, but im still in 2 minds, my evo gearbox will be sorted this week and i may love it once again, but for over a year now the csl has been calling me, and continues to do so
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:49 PM   #9
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lawsy - don't base your decision on my data logger post comparing the two. That was for fun - for one thing it was on different days so the track conditions were different (although both dry). The other is that its mostly down to driver as well - if you were basing a decision purely on what I'd posted then you'd have to come to the following conclusions:

1. The Evo is faster in a straight line (more bhp and torque)
2. The CSL on 888s corners as well as, sometimes better/faster than the Evo on Slicks, therefore the CSL must corner much better than an Evo if it was on slicks as well
3. The CSL allows you to brake later than the Evo
4. The Evo has a higher corner entry speed but the CSL has caught up mid corner.

All of which is bollocks - the only thing in the list above that you can compare is the fact that the Evo is clearly faster in a straight line. The rest is down to differences in the driver and driving style. If my data logs were the same (professional) driver who was experienced in both cars and was driving both logs on the same day, then yes you could compare them. Unfortunately neither the Evo driver nor I are pros, well perhaps drinking pros

They are both great cars and I imagine you will have fun with either - obviously I'm biased to the CSL as I love RWD, but as ever the choice is yours!

Im not basing my decision solely on your post, its just one of many inputs, lots pro evo, lots pro csl.

I too love rwd, having had many high powered mercedes amg kompressors, lots of high speed sideways action just not too hot at handling in a csl way.

Im just in 2 minds what to do, i suppose i really need to drive a csl on a long term test drive, but thats hard to do,
Maybe i could keep the evo as well, hmm decisions
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Old 26-04-2009, 10:20 PM   #10
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Hi guys,

I also have been looking at this csl alot over the last few weeks, did anybody notice that the m3csl badge is on the wrong place on the boot lid, maybe the car has been rear ended, apart from that it looks good.

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