PF brake discs - are they really any good!? - Page 2

_Nathan_ · 04-05-2010, 06:33 PM

I really rate them still, obviously possible you got a bad set though.

**glendog74** · 04-05-2010, 07:00 PM

I have read this thread with interest as i have a very positive experience of my AP disc setup.

I had APs fitted all round in November 08 - initially with Ferodo DS2500 pads. I quickly realised that the Ferodo pads weren't up to the job after just 2 track days so swapped to Pagid RS29s and have used these since with good results and am almost through my second set of front pads. The original rears are almost dead too.

I had the APs fitted at around 50k miles - my car has recently just turned 63k miles...

During these 18 months/13k miles, i have done a further 5 track days as well as 6 trips to the Ring totalling around 250 laps (approx 3275 Ring miles).

Apart from the usual thin hairline cracks in the centre of the disc contact area extending out towards the edge, i have had no issues with cracking on the disc outer edge as mentioned earlier. The discs are probably good for another 2-3k miles i reckon.

I had always heard good things about PF discs and had planned to swap to those when my current discs die soon. BUT - with the experience i have had with AP discs so far, i have to say i am very tempted to continue using them in the future - especially if they are cheaper than PF

BTW - i love you Shim

northernjim · 04-05-2010, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glendog74

I have read this thread with interest as i have a very positive experience of my AP disc setup.

I had APs fitted all round in November 08 - initially with Ferodo DS2500 pads. I quickly realised that the Ferodo pads weren't up to the job after just 2 track days so swapped to Pagid RS29s and have used these since with good results and am almost through my second set of front pads. The original rears are almost dead too.

I had the APs fitted at around 50k miles - my car has recently just turned 63k miles...

During these 18 months/13k miles, i have done a further 5 track days as well as 6 trips to the Ring totalling around 250 laps (approx 3275 Ring miles).

Apart from the usual thin hairline cracks in the centre of the disc contact area extending out towards the edge, i have had no issues with cracking on the disc outer edge as mentioned earlier. The discs are probably good for another 2-3k miles i reckon.

I had always heard good things about PF discs and had planned to swap to those when my current discs die soon. BUT - with the experience i have had with AP discs so far, i have to say i am very tempted to continue using them in the future - especially if they are cheaper than PF

BTW - i love you Shim

the ring is less heavy on your brakes tho than a normal circuit......

**glendog74** · 05-05-2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northernjim

the ring is less heavy on your brakes tho than a normal circuit......

Yes - i know Jim...

P.S. I love you too

s.mac · 05-05-2010, 08:49 AM

only if you know it

**shimmy** · 15-06-2010, 09:11 PM

so my PF front discs finally bit the dust at Rockingham. Just one crack to the edge but a bad one which I could straight away feel thru the brake pedal.

They covered 2100 track miles, same as the last AP set, but using RS14 pads instead of RS29, which are meant to be a little softer and kinder to the disc.

Overall I think the PF are certainly no better and possibly a little worse than the AP DISCS.

So I've just put the AP discs on I got from Lawsy. If the scouser ain't sold me a bent set then with the little wear they have they should last 1500-1800 track miles.

**glendog74** · 15-06-2010, 09:20 PM

My car is booked into Simpson this Friday for a full AP replacement. Anthony initially convinced me to go the PF route on the fronts but listened to my experience of APs and said that i must have a good set.

Incidentally, PF discs have recently gone up in price by £35 per disc and are now £285 + VAT per disc. APs are £60 cheaper per disc.

APs again for me

Not looking forward to the bill though...

**shimmy** · 15-06-2010, 09:28 PM

Do you just mean discs Rob or are you doing calliper refurb as well?

Last time I was there for brakes they got me a calliper seal set and refurbed the fronts as the car had done 3 years + of track days

**glendog74** · 15-06-2010, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Do you just mean discs Rob or are you doing calliper refurb as well?

New AP discs front & rear with Pagid RS29 all round.

My callipers should be ok at the moment as they were fitted in Nov '08 -covered 7 UK TDs and 7 Ring trips since.

s.mac · 15-06-2010, 09:38 PM

Those disks are f- -cked Shimmy
youre not getting good life out of either PF or AP !!!

Its the 1st time I've had pagid pads (29's), I think they are a very hard pad and I'm looking for a set of pads just to use for road pads, far too severe for road IMO

do you know the AP front and rear pad shapes so I can look at alternatives or can I cross reference the pagid part number? (if there's one on the box..)

04-05-2010, 06:33 PM	#11
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	I really rate them still, obviously possible you got a bad set though. __________________ Nathan

04-05-2010, 07:00 PM	#12
glendog74 CSL Register Uber-poster! Tetris Champion! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 8,861 Casino cash: $32299	I have read this thread with interest as i have a very positive experience of my AP disc setup. I had APs fitted all round in November 08 - initially with Ferodo DS2500 pads. I quickly realised that the Ferodo pads weren't up to the job after just 2 track days so swapped to Pagid RS29s and have used these since with good results and am almost through my second set of front pads. The original rears are almost dead too. I had the APs fitted at around 50k miles - my car has recently just turned 63k miles... During these 18 months/13k miles, i have done a further 5 track days as well as 6 trips to the Ring totalling around 250 laps (approx 3275 Ring miles). Apart from the usual thin hairline cracks in the centre of the disc contact area extending out towards the edge, i have had no issues with cracking on the disc outer edge as mentioned earlier. The discs are probably good for another 2-3k miles i reckon. I had always heard good things about PF discs and had planned to swap to those when my current discs die soon. BUT - with the experience i have had with AP discs so far, i have to say i am very tempted to continue using them in the future - especially if they are cheaper than PF BTW - i love you Shim __________________ Cha'mone Mother F*ker! Last edited by glendog74; 04-05-2010 at 07:02 PM.*

15-06-2010, 09:11 PM	#16
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,645 Casino cash: $43908	so my PF front discs finally bit the dust at Rockingham. Just one crack to the edge but a bad one which I could straight away feel thru the brake pedal. They covered 2100 track miles, same as the last AP set, but using RS14 pads instead of RS29, which are meant to be a little softer and kinder to the disc. Overall I think the PF are certainly no better and possibly a little worse than the AP DISCS. So I've just put the AP discs on I got from Lawsy. If the scouser ain't sold me a bent set then with the little wear they have they should last 1500-1800 track miles. __________________ .

15-06-2010, 09:20 PM	#17
glendog74 CSL Register Uber-poster! Tetris Champion! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 8,861 Casino cash: $32299	My car is booked into Simpson this Friday for a full AP replacement. Anthony initially convinced me to go the PF route on the fronts but listened to my experience of APs and said that i must have a good set. Incidentally, PF discs have recently gone up in price by £35 per disc and are now £285 + VAT per disc. APs are £60 cheaper per disc. APs again for me Not looking forward to the bill though... __________________ Cha'mone Mother F**ker!

15-06-2010, 09:28 PM	#18
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,645 Casino cash: $43908	Do you just mean discs Rob or are you doing calliper refurb as well? Last time I was there for brakes they got me a calliper seal set and refurbed the fronts as the car had done 3 years + of track days __________________ .

05-05-2010, 08:49 AM	#15
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	only if you know it

15-06-2010, 09:38 PM	#20
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	Those disks are f- -cked Shimmy youre not getting good life out of either PF or AP !!! Its the 1st time I've had pagid pads (29's), I think they are a very hard pad and I'm looking for a set of pads just to use for road pads, far too severe for road IMO do you know the AP front and rear pad shapes so I can look at alternatives or can I cross reference the pagid part number? (if there's one on the box..)