CSL Register

Go Back   CSL Register > General > Main Message Centre

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2014, 09:42 PM   #1
Rick H
S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track
 
Rick H's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: The North West
Posts: 801
Casino cash: $12295
Rick H is on a distinguished road
Default Wheel Spacer Failure

Hi all, had my wheels off this weekend and noticed the spacers on the rears had failed quite badly.

They're the hub-centric type and have cracked at the wheel/hub interface - i.e. they are no longer hub centric and all weight is borne by the bolts.

They're 13mm aluminium spacers.
Rick H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 09:49 PM   #2
alexk
Driving it like I nicked it
 
alexk's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,784
Casino cash: $29947
alexk is on a distinguished road
Default

What make are they ?

I thought there were 10mm or 12mm, first time I hear about 13mm.
__________________

www.clubcsl.com - I am a BMW Motorsport fan !

My youtube channel is here
alexk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:26 PM   #3
chrisburns
S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track
 
chrisburns's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 653
Casino cash: $12778
chrisburns
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexk View Post
What make are they ?

I thought there were 10mm or 12mm, first time I hear about 13mm.
Likewise, have they been over tightened or anything ?
chrisburns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 12:26 AM   #4
cslsuperfan
Driving it like I nicked it
 
cslsuperfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: wales
Posts: 2,222
Casino cash: $19520
cslsuperfan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick H View Post
Hi all, had my wheels off this weekend and noticed the spacers on the rears had failed quite badly.

They're the hub-centric type and have cracked at the wheel/hub interface - i.e. they are no longer hub centric and all weight is borne by the bolts.

They're 13mm aluminium spacers.
Rick

ditch the hubcentric setup and go for wheel bolts that pass through the spacer and screw into the blind holes of the hub

I had this type of spacer originally and got rid pronto- did not like the way the spacer bolts to the hub and then the wheel to the spacer.

Better still go for a wheel stud conversion!!

saves on buying longer wheel bolts to accommodate your wider axle.
cslsuperfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 04:54 AM   #5
CSLSEM3
S2 - Picking it up
 
CSLSEM3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 72
Casino cash: $611
CSLSEM3 is on a distinguished road
Default

Has happened before.
Relevant factors include quality of spacers, (low) lug bolt tightening torque and even aftermarket wheel hub design/cut.
I would bin the brand and buy some high quality/ well known spacers if you plan to continue with the "look" or need to offset for clearance.
G/L

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick H View Post
Hi all, had my wheels off this weekend and noticed the spacers on the rears had failed quite badly.

They're the hub-centric type and have cracked at the wheel/hub interface - i.e. they are no longer hub centric and all weight is borne by the bolts.

They're 13mm aluminium spacers.
CSLSEM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 07:56 AM   #6
Rick H
S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track
 
Rick H's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: The North West
Posts: 801
Casino cash: $12295
Rick H is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cslsuperfan View Post
Rick

ditch the hubcentric setup and go for wheel bolts that pass through the spacer and screw into the blind holes of the hub

I had this type of spacer originally and got rid pronto- did not like the way the spacer bolts to the hub and then the wheel to the spacer.

Better still go for a wheel stud conversion!!

saves on buying longer wheel bolts to accommodate your wider axle.
Ben - they are thro-bolted type with extended bolts. Will remove shortly and photograph.
Rick H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 08:13 AM   #7
Rick H
S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track
 
Rick H's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: The North West
Posts: 801
Casino cash: $12295
Rick H is on a distinguished road
Default

I think I know what's happened.

I bought the spacers s/h off Mark. When I bought them, Mark mentioned I may need to do a bit of grinding if the spacers didn't sit hard against the hub. When I fitted them, they seemed fine with no gap so I didn't make any mod to hub or spacer - but it looks like there must have been at least a small gap so when the wheel bolts where tightened, the raised hub section separated from the main section of the spacer.

I think they're Eibach by the way, but it's irrelevant as it's not the spacer's fault.
Rick H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 10:20 AM   #8
Mark CSL
CSL Register Uber-poster!
 
Mark CSL's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 8,777
Casino cash: $42229
Mark CSL is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Mark CSL
Default

The hub on some cars are longer by a small margin and it can put presure on the part it then cracks the easy way to sort this is buff the part on the car

The red part on some cars are a little longer this is why they snap

the yellow part needs a buff with a grinder only if it has a small gap when the spacer is placed on it
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 04-4-20122001BMW740iSportBeyernwheels020.jpg (67.1 KB, 152 views)
__________________

www.procarkits.co.uk
Mark CSL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 03:53 PM   #9
chrisburns
S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track
 
chrisburns's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: N.Ireland
Posts: 653
Casino cash: $12778
chrisburns
Default

I've ran spacers for years on all my cars with no issues thankfully. As said the seating of the spacer is vitally important
chrisburns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 04:22 PM   #10
0-60Motorsports
S5 - Full Throttle
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kingdom of Bahrain
Posts: 479
Casino cash: $3269
0-60Motorsports
Send a message via AIM to 0-60Motorsports Send a message via MSN to 0-60Motorsports
Default

Get a stud conversion and get some good quality spacers like H&R etc.
__________________
EURO 04 M3 Current Mods: GC Coilovers, Eibach Sways, RE RCA?s, VCSL Bumper, OE CSL Boot, VCSL CF Rear Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, SS Stepped Headers and catless, SS Res X Pipe, SS Race exhaust, OEM CSL Steering + interior, OEM CSL Intake, MSS54HP with HTE Tune, BBS CH's/LM?s FX-R Projectors + night breakers, STOPTECH ST60/40, RE Front strut brace, DINAN Rear Strut Brace,

0-60Motorsports is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c)www.wickedwifi.co.uk