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Old 15-10-2009, 09:34 AM   #21
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cant comment on Alcons on M3 but my AP discs on the front (two sets) both lasted 1 year, 20k miles and 17 track days

MY PF discs on this year have so far done 5k miles and 13 trackdays but i seriously doubt they will do DOUBLE the AP above (2 years, 40k miles and 34 trackdays)
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Old 15-10-2009, 09:36 AM   #22
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I never got 20k miles out of a set of AP Disks! I am just a hobbyist IDIOT.
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Old 15-10-2009, 09:51 AM   #23
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I never got 20k miles out of a set of AP Disks! I am just a hobbyist IDIOT.
now i would never say that.........but i know someone who might
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Old 15-10-2009, 11:01 AM   #24
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If I were buying new I'd look at them certainly, having to remove the caliper to change the pads could be an issue for me as I imagine it is slower but other than that they look great, this thread is about replacing disks for an AP kit, is there even an Alcon disk available to fit the AP bell? If not the comments about Alcon are completely irrelevant anyway.

PS. When unspecified "problems" with AP stuff is used as a selling point for Alcon it is only fair to point out that regardless of what you buy people can and do have issues.
Changing pads on the Alcons is a caliper off job, but it's only one bolt to rotate the caliper out. It's still a very easy job on the driveway.

Don't know if there are any real "problems" with APs and they certainly wouldn't be my basis for not choosing them. But general consensus did say their discs were questionable at best in comparison to others, including OEM CSL discs. Alcons OTOH were a proven solution on my old GT3 and used just as successfully as APs in top flight rally and FIA GT motorsport. Certainly less reported issues compared to APs.

Amyway, getting back to the OP question: between APs and PFs, I'd probably choose PFs.
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Old 15-10-2009, 03:05 PM   #25
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I haven't seen anyone advertising an Alcon disk for use with an AP calliper set up ?
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Old 15-10-2009, 11:54 PM   #26
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Changing pads on the Alcons is a caliper off job, but it's only one bolt to rotate the caliper out. It's still a very easy job on the driveway.
Really? I've always had to undo both bolts to change the pads ... pain in the butt to be honest and almost impossible to do at the track if the brakes are HOTT!!!
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