24-10-2010, 11:19 PM | #1 |
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Non-CSL SMG v's CSL?
OK, as mentioned before a friend is looking at normal e46's for a track day / euro hoon car. Now I loved the SMG in the CSL, and wondered how the SMG in the non-CSL compares, and if anyone has ever tried it back to back?
At first I said stick to a manual, but questions have been raised about how good the normal SMG is and I have no idea. I also believe its possible to have the SMG software 'mapped' anyone done this? Reccomend it? |
25-10-2010, 11:08 AM | #2 |
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Had both the standard M3 smg change is not as good it didn't blip hard like the csl on the downchange allways felt a lttle slower than the csl
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25-10-2010, 11:46 AM | #3 |
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My pal wanted to flash the SMG ECU with the CSL map in his standard M3, however, as I understand, while most the parts are shared, the ECU is different.
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25-10-2010, 11:52 AM | #4 |
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Think that depends on the year of the M3...
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25-10-2010, 02:00 PM | #5 |
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2005 on m3 has same ecu as CSL, so exactly the same.
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25-10-2010, 04:51 PM | #6 |
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He's got a budget that only allows for an 01/02 car. Any views?
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25-10-2010, 06:35 PM | #7 |
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I now have an '02 Manual coupe (my 4th E46 M3). No options, running on 18's, 92k on the clock. Runs as smooth as silk, and I am no slower on track than I was in the CSL. Perfect car for a track/euro hoon weapon which is excatly what mine is used for.
You can't beat the noise of the CSL , and tyres make such a MASSIVE difference on a dry track. But if that is his budget, go for it. I miss the SMG but have really got to grips with the manual and am liking it more than I thought I would. The CSL is ultimately the better car, as it is the sum of all its parts, but for less than £10k, you can't go wrong with an earlier M3.
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25-10-2010, 06:40 PM | #8 |
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Thats what I like to hear, back up what I've been telling him all along too. I said what he needs is a car with no options, basically an e46 M3 with 18" wheels and no-sunroof would be idea.
Just if an SMG car came up at the right price I'm not sure how good they are, the only experience I have is my CSL. |
25-10-2010, 06:48 PM | #9 |
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If an SMG comes up, its worth getting a software update done for the SMG, made a big difference to one of mine, made the downshifts quicker and the upshifts on full chat much smoother. But in terms of the gearbox, I never noticed any difference between the SMG M3's and the CSL.
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25-10-2010, 07:07 PM | #10 |
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Thats good to hear, I didn't know if there was a major speed difference in shifting or anything. I believe the SMG software can be mapped / updated, I presume the updates are done by BMW where as aftermarket software guru's will offer increased shifting response via a map?
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