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Old 20-07-2015, 09:12 PM   #1
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Unhappy 223/P0107 Intake Manifold Pressure Fault

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So, since I bought the car in 2006 I got my very first CEL today. Car is full CSL conversion minus cams with OEM CSL + TTFS tune...





Was speaking to Terra earlier and think it's a map sensor fault. Since i couldnt find the spare MAP Sensor I had I thought I would post here for some thoughts from the members.

Car is jerky and bogs on acceleration in the specified rpms in the pictures. In any gear.

I cleared the CEL today and it came back at the end of the day.

When I unplug the map sensor the idle returns to being smooth and no more erratic behavior with AC on. I will try switching the TPS sensors between the front and flap one. Lets see if this is a TPS issue more than a MAP issue.

Any thoughts from the you CSL Owners would be appreciated. Cheers Fella's
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Old 21-07-2015, 12:38 AM   #2
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Check your wiring on your MAP sensor - I have not seen these MAP sensors fail ever unless it's clogged up?

I seem to recall you soldered your MAP wires rather than crimp them, that's a big no no for wiring in the engine bay.
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Old 21-07-2015, 07:49 AM   #3
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Check your wiring on your MAP sensor - I have not seen these MAP sensors fail ever unless it's clogged up?

I seem to recall you soldered your MAP wires rather than crimp them, that's a big no no for wiring in the engine bay.
I wouldnt think crimping vs soldering would be such a big deal in this case. I might as well check the wiring, The MAP sensor i installed was a used one any way.
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Old 23-07-2015, 03:38 PM   #4
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Wiring looks fine. Ordered a new MAP sensor as mine was old and used. Never installed a brand new one from the start. Will report back once it arrives and I install it.
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I'm having similar problems. 223 intake manifold pressure. I've replace the the idle control valve but still 223 is present. Any more thoughts on this please ??
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I'm having similar problems. 223 intake manifold pressure. I've replace the the idle control valve but still 223 is present. Any more thoughts on this please ??
Did you replace the map sensor? I am waiting for mine to arrive.
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No not as yet. I've just rang local Bmw £335 with vat - 13627833561
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No not as yet. I've just rang local Bmw £335 with vat - 13627833561
Try eBay or others like evolve. Search online. They are expensive but we can't run from it. Best thing to do is borrow it from someone storing their Csl. It only takes a few mins to change over and you'll notice straight away if it fixes the issues.
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I received my new OEM MAP Sensor and just installed it. The idle seems to become normal and then fluctuate again with AC on. With AC off it is normal and fine.

I will clear adaptations and go for a drive and report back.
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So the new MAP Sensor did F all. Tiny bit smoother but otherwise exactly the same. Fluctuating idle with AC on and Choking bogging under 3-4k rpm with AC on (dont know if having ac on or off will make any difference).

I guess next step is to look at the wiring for the MAP sensor as maybe solders could have come loose. when I disconnect the MAP sensor car idles perfect with AC on.
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