The CSL production data thread

NBTBRV8 · 28-07-2012, 12:12 PM

I’ve just finished cataloguing one by one all the RHD CSL production data (yes I know, hello ladies). It is a fairly arduous process but I don’t know of anyone else that has done it. I will start on the LHD production data next, but as there are more cars it will take me a few months. So in the interim here is a summary of the key findings.

There were 542 RHD CSLs made according to the BMW ASAP data, there is no listing for cars JC98136 > JC98139, these cars don’t exist as they appear to be the change point from MY03 cars to MY04 cars, there is a production gap in the data for this period too for the LHD vehicles. Of the 542 cars there are 16 test vehicles which have their “Data restricted” with 6 made during the production run in July, the rest in 2002. These test cars are listed for the following markets:

Australia – 1
Japan – 1 (no RHD cars went to Japan though)
UK – 11
South Africa – 1 (Found its way to NZ and was sold through the BMW network)
Oceania – 2 (New Zealand maybe and ?)

The first test car is shown as built on 19/9/2002 with the first production car coming off the line on 10/6/2003. The last RHD car made was a silver car on 17/12/2003 and was shipped out of Europe with a KM/H speedo and 315 MhZ alarm but it didn’t go to Australia. The second last RHD car made was 7 days prior and was a UK/Ireland delivered car.

Of the 542 RHD cars made:
139 (26%) were black, of these 26 were delimited and 49 were delivered on double spokes.
403 (74%) were silver, of these 65 were delimited and 137 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 16% were delimited and 34% supplied on double spokes.

There were 3 stripped out road racers i.e no options selected at all, all 3 were silver UK cars. These cars were all supplied on double spoke wheels and didn’t have any of the “selectable options” of:
* Deleted model lettering.
* Green tinted upper strip windscreen.
* Climate comfort windscreen.
* Floor mats.
* Smoker package.
* Headlight washers.
* PDC.
* Rain sensor.
* Xenon.
* Air conditioning.
* CD Player.
* Mini disc player.
* Radio.

There were 3 cars fitted with 2 stage brake lights in the last couple of weeks of production, 1 black and 2 silver. The black car went to Australia and the two silver cars had KPH speedos and all had 315 MhZ alarms and went to an unknown market.
The last RHD black car made was a delimited car that went to Australia.

The production spilt by month is as shown below. However it must be noted that some cars didn't come off the line in VIN sequence, it appears as though these had "rework faults" to rectify or were waiting parts.

Build Quantity First VIN Last VIN
Sep-02 1 - JC98001 JC98001
Oct-02 2 - JC98002 JC98000
Nov-02 0
Dec-02 3 - JC98003 JC98005
Jan-03 4 - JC98006 JC98009
Feb-03 0
Mar-03 0
Apr-03 0
May-03 0
Jun-03 3 - JC98010 JC98012
Jul-03 105 - JC98013 JC98117
Aug-03 18 - JC98118 JC98135
Sep-03 121 - JC98140 JC98260
Oct-03 130 - JC98261 JC98391
Nov-03 108 - JC98389 JC98498
Dec-03 47 - JC98499 JC98545

UK cars
430 UK/Ireland cars were made including the 11 “data restricted cars” some of which were made in 2002. Of these:
111 of these were black, 19 of these were delimited and 49 were on double spokes.
319 of these were silver, 38 were delimited and 131 were on double spokes.
1 UK delivered car had a KPH speedo, as did one “Data restricted car”.

49 cars were delivered without a radio.
25 cars were delivered without air conditioning.
10 had mini disc players.
13 were CSL debadged.
208 had a green strip windscreen.
87 had a climate comfort windscreen.
269 had floor mats.
76 had the smokers pack.
281 had the headlight washers. The production cars didn’t get them until car JC98097 on 28/7/2003.
247 had PDC.
203 had the rain sensor.
329 had Xenons.
405 had air conditioning.
328 had a CD player.
381 had a radio.

3 UK production cars didn’t have a battery master switch, seat belt buzzer or additional fuel in tank when built.

2 production cars had the “Omission of outer skin preservation”, a silver car and a black car.

1 production car didn’t get the “Coil on plug” option. This appears to have been relevant to UK cars as all other RHD markets didn’t have it, I guess it is related to fuel quality and emissions.

UK/Ireland Vehicle Production Month by Month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 1 - JC98001 JC98001
Oct-02 1 - JC98002 JC98002
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 2 - JC98004 JC98005
Jan-03 1 - JC98007 JC98007
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 2 - JC98011 JC98012
Jul-03 73 - JC98021 JC98117
Aug-03 18 - JC98118 JC98135
Sep-03 61 - JC98140 JC98260
Oct-03 121 - JC98261 JC98391
Nov-03 106 - JC98389 JC98498
Dec-03 44 - JC98499 JC98544

South African cars
60 RHD cars, including 1 “data restricted” test car.

21 (35%) black cars, 3 were delimited and none supplied on double spokes.
39 (65%) silver cars, 12 delimited and none supplied on double spokes.
Thus 25% were delimited all supplied on Y Spoke wheels.

2 CSL debadged.
32 with a green upper strip windscreen.
28 with a climate comfort screen.
All supplied with floor mats, smoker package, headlight washers, Xenon lights, CD, radio, seat belt buzzer.
42 with PDC.
34 with rain sensor.
54 with air conditioning.
4 cars had option S988A which I don’t know what it is.

South African built month by month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 1 - JC98006 JC98006
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 1 - JC98010 JC98010
Jul-03 19 - JC98013 JC98105
Aug-03 0 -
Sep-03 35 - JC98146 JC98249
Oct-03 4 - JC98318 JC98353
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 0 -

Australian cars
28 cars including 1 “data restricted car” which BMW Australia didn’t sell and isn’t on their records as importing, so 27 imported and sold.

26 (93%) silver cars, 10 delimited, 12 supplied with double spokes.
2 (7%) black cars, 1 delimited, none supplied on double spokes.
Thus 39% were delimited and 43% were supplied on double spoke wheels.

All cars fully optioned as listed above and had climate comfort screens fitted.

Australian Build cars Month by Month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 1 - JC98003 JC98003
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 0 -
Jul-03 13 - JC98027 JC98116
Aug-03 0 -
Sep-03 8 - JC98202 JC98255
Oct-03 4 - JC98310 JC98384
Nov-03 1 - JC98488 JC98488
Dec-03 1 - JC98542 JC98542

New Zealand cars

10 cars plus one South African Preproduction car that was sold through the BMW network which is actually included in the SA data above, thus I will exclude.
8 silver cars, 5 delimited, none supplied with double spokes.
2 black cars, none delimited, none supplied with double spokes.

Options:

10 with an alarm.
10 with Smokers package.
10 with air conditioning.
1 with a CD player.
9 with a radio.
10 shipped with the battery master switch.

New Zealand vehicles (by data deduction)build month by month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0
Oct-02 0
Nov-02 0
Dec-02 0
Jan-03 0
Feb-03 0
Mar-03 0
Apr-03 0
May-03 0
Jun-03 0
Jul-03 0
Aug-03 0
Sep-03 10 - JC98219 JC98241
Oct-03 0
Nov-03 0
Dec-03 0

That leaves 13 unknown market RHD vehicles 2 were preproduction. Of these 13, 3 where "Oceania cars". The Oceania cars were:

All Silver cars, none delimited.
All had the MY04 coil on plug options which I guess all went to the same market.
All had a green tint windscreen.
2 had an alarm system.
None had floor mats.
None had the smokers package.
2 had headlight cleaning system.
All had PDC.
2 had rain sensor.
All had xenons.
All had air conditioning.
All had a CD player.
All had a radio.
All were shipped with a battery master switch.
All had English literature packs.

That leaves 8 unknown region vehicles. These comprised of:
All 8 were silver, none were delimited.
All had an alarm.
All had floor mats.
All had smokers package.
All had xenon.
All were shipped with a battery master switch.
All had English literature packs.
7 had headlight cleaning system.
7 had PDC.
7 had rain sensor.
7 had air conditioning.
7 had a CD player.
7 had a radio.
7 had a 2 stage brake light.

Unknown RHD market Vehicles(Suspect Hong Kong)

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 0 -
Jul-03 0 -
Aug-03 0 -
Sep-03 4 - JC98201 JC98239
Oct-03 1 - JC98292 JC98292
Nov-03 1 - JC98471 JC98471
Dec-03 2 - JC98538 JC98545

Ther was also one pre-production RHD car, JC98008 that was built as a Japanese car. This is interesting as all of the Japanese production cars were LHD, so I don't know why they would build this car.

And that is pretty much it for the RHD production run of the CSL. I hope that has answered some questions.

If anyone has any specific combination queries please ask.

Trawler · 28-07-2012, 12:27 PM

Very interesting, are you planning to add any more info on rhd cars?

Can you shed some more light on the battery switch (where is it located) & fuel tank?

NBTBRV8 · 28-07-2012, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trawler

Very interesting, are you planning to add any more info on rhd cars?

Can you shed some more light on the battery switch (where is it located) & fuel tank?

I am not sure what the battery switch is, it is listed as an option but it must be region specific not customer choosable. The fuel reference is just to the factory putting extra fuel in the tank if the car was travelling a long way to the selling dealer as they didn't want it to run out enroute.

I wasn't planning on posting any more info as the combinations are wide and varied, but can probably answer specific questions but filtering the data.

born2boost · 28-07-2012, 12:57 PM

Thanks for the interesting info!!!

I find it weird that South Africa only had 60 in total? What happened to the other 5? My cars tag shows No.10 of 65...?

Also...I was told by a friend that the Main Battery switch was something that was removed by the dealer from the car when it reached its relative country...it was apparently a switch to disconnect the battery while the car was being transported. I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct information though...

I'm happy to know that my car is one of the few that had almost all of the optional extras!

NBTBRV8 · 28-07-2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by born2boost

Thanks for the interesting info!!!

I find it weird that South Africa only had 60 in total? What happened to the other 5? My cars tag shows No.10 of 65...?

Also...I was told by a friend that the Main Battery switch was something that was removed by the dealer from the car when it reached its relative country...it was apparently a switch to disconnect the battery while the car was being transported. I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct information though...

I'm happy to know that my car is one of the few that had almost all of the optional extras!

I don't know about the other 5, could they have been LHD which I haven't done yet? Maybe SA had those badges made before hand and ended up only getting an allocation of 60?

born2boost · 28-07-2012, 01:23 PM

I doubt that...as I haven't seen or heard of any LHD models here, and I know that the law does not allow the importing of LHD cars into the country either...

Is there any chance that your info could be mistaken with the figure of 60??

I doubt that BMW would say 65 but then only produce 60...? I can understand the test car but 5 short seems unlikely?

NBTBRV8 · 28-07-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by born2boost

I doubt that...as I haven't seen or heard of any LHD models here, and I know that the law does not allow the importing of LHD cars into the country either...

Is there any chance that your info could be mistaken with the figure of 60??

I doubt that BMW would say 65 but then only produce 60...? I can understand the test car but 5 short seems unlikely?

Don't forget that BMW Germany dictate how many cars the subsidiaries get, so if they started affixing plaques to cars based on their "initial" allocation then by the time the 6 months was up that could have changed. I have no reason to doubt my data, but it could be wrong, but everything I have found and cross checked to date is spot on. 5 does seem like a nice round number to round down by though.

Yanto · 28-07-2012, 01:32 PM

It's widely known that 98% of stats are made up !

Seriously, thanks for posting - a very interesting read

Shimmy, you got competition...

I call for a stat-off

born2boost · 28-07-2012, 01:42 PM

Could be so...who knows?? If it is indeed the case...then that makes the CSL even more of a scarce item in SA!!!

Definitely some good info here...thanks!!

83SY · 28-07-2012, 01:54 PM

Nice work....

some hours put in there!

28-07-2012, 12:12 PM	#1
NBTBRV8 S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Other Side of the World Posts: 272 Casino cash: $10795	The CSL production data thread I’ve just finished cataloguing one by one all the RHD CSL production data (yes I know, hello ladies). It is a fairly arduous process but I don’t know of anyone else that has done it. I will start on the LHD production data next, but as there are more cars it will take me a few months. So in the interim here is a summary of the key findings. There were 542 RHD CSLs made according to the BMW ASAP data, there is no listing for cars JC98136 > JC98139, these cars don’t exist as they appear to be the change point from MY03 cars to MY04 cars, there is a production gap in the data for this period too for the LHD vehicles. Of the 542 cars there are 16 test vehicles which have their “Data restricted” with 6 made during the production run in July, the rest in 2002. These test cars are listed for the following markets: Australia – 1 Japan – 1 (no RHD cars went to Japan though) UK – 11 South Africa – 1 (Found its way to NZ and was sold through the BMW network) Oceania – 2 (New Zealand maybe and ?) The first test car is shown as built on 19/9/2002 with the first production car coming off the line on 10/6/2003. The last RHD car made was a silver car on 17/12/2003 and was shipped out of Europe with a KM/H speedo and 315 MhZ alarm but it didn’t go to Australia. The second last RHD car made was 7 days prior and was a UK/Ireland delivered car. Of the 542 RHD cars made: 139 (26%) were black, of these 26 were delimited and 49 were delivered on double spokes. 403 (74%) were silver, of these 65 were delimited and 137 were delivered on double spokes. Thus 16% were delimited and 34% supplied on double spokes. There were 3 stripped out road racers i.e no options selected at all, all 3 were silver UK cars. These cars were all supplied on double spoke wheels and didn’t have any of the “selectable options” of: * Deleted model lettering. * Green tinted upper strip windscreen. * Climate comfort windscreen. * Floor mats. * Smoker package. * Headlight washers. * PDC. * Rain sensor. * Xenon. * Air conditioning. * CD Player. * Mini disc player. * Radio. There were 3 cars fitted with 2 stage brake lights in the last couple of weeks of production, 1 black and 2 silver. The black car went to Australia and the two silver cars had KPH speedos and all had 315 MhZ alarms and went to an unknown market. The last RHD black car made was a delimited car that went to Australia. The production spilt by month is as shown below. However it must be noted that some cars didn't come off the line in VIN sequence, it appears as though these had "rework faults" to rectify or were waiting parts. Build Quantity First VIN Last VIN Sep-02 1 - JC98001 JC98001 Oct-02 2 - JC98002 JC98000 Nov-02 0 Dec-02 3 - JC98003 JC98005 Jan-03 4 - JC98006 JC98009 Feb-03 0 Mar-03 0 Apr-03 0 May-03 0 Jun-03 3 - JC98010 JC98012 Jul-03 105 - JC98013 JC98117 Aug-03 18 - JC98118 JC98135 Sep-03 121 - JC98140 JC98260 Oct-03 130 - JC98261 JC98391 Nov-03 108 - JC98389 JC98498 Dec-03 47 - JC98499 JC98545 UK cars 430 UK/Ireland cars were made including the 11 “data restricted cars” some of which were made in 2002. Of these: 111 of these were black, 19 of these were delimited and 49 were on double spokes. 319 of these were silver, 38 were delimited and 131 were on double spokes. 1 UK delivered car had a KPH speedo, as did one “Data restricted car”. 49 cars were delivered without a radio. 25 cars were delivered without air conditioning. 10 had mini disc players. 13 were CSL debadged. 208 had a green strip windscreen. 87 had a climate comfort windscreen. 269 had floor mats. 76 had the smokers pack. 281 had the headlight washers. The production cars didn’t get them until car JC98097 on 28/7/2003. 247 had PDC. 203 had the rain sensor. 329 had Xenons. 405 had air conditioning. 328 had a CD player. 381 had a radio. 3 UK production cars didn’t have a battery master switch, seat belt buzzer or additional fuel in tank when built. 2 production cars had the “Omission of outer skin preservation”, a silver car and a black car. 1 production car didn’t get the “Coil on plug” option. This appears to have been relevant to UK cars as all other RHD markets didn’t have it, I guess it is related to fuel quality and emissions. UK/Ireland Vehicle Production Month by Month Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN Sep-02 1 - JC98001 JC98001 Oct-02 1 - JC98002 JC98002 Nov-02 0 - Dec-02 2 - JC98004 JC98005 Jan-03 1 - JC98007 JC98007 Feb-03 0 - Mar-03 0 - Apr-03 0 - May-03 0 - Jun-03 2 - JC98011 JC98012 Jul-03 73 - JC98021 JC98117 Aug-03 18 - JC98118 JC98135 Sep-03 61 - JC98140 JC98260 Oct-03 121 - JC98261 JC98391 Nov-03 106 - JC98389 JC98498 Dec-03 44 - JC98499 JC98544 South African cars 60 RHD cars, including 1 “data restricted” test car. 21 (35%) black cars, 3 were delimited and none supplied on double spokes. 39 (65%) silver cars, 12 delimited and none supplied on double spokes. Thus 25% were delimited all supplied on Y Spoke wheels. 2 CSL debadged. 32 with a green upper strip windscreen. 28 with a climate comfort screen. All supplied with floor mats, smoker package, headlight washers, Xenon lights, CD, radio, seat belt buzzer. 42 with PDC. 34 with rain sensor. 54 with air conditioning. 4 cars had option S988A which I don’t know what it is. South African built month by month Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN Sep-02 0 - Oct-02 0 - Nov-02 0 - Dec-02 0 - Jan-03 1 - JC98006 JC98006 Feb-03 0 - Mar-03 0 - Apr-03 0 - May-03 0 - Jun-03 1 - JC98010 JC98010 Jul-03 19 - JC98013 JC98105 Aug-03 0 - Sep-03 35 - JC98146 JC98249 Oct-03 4 - JC98318 JC98353 Nov-03 0 - Dec-03 0 - Australian cars 28 cars including 1 “data restricted car” which BMW Australia didn’t sell and isn’t on their records as importing, so 27 imported and sold. 26 (93%) silver cars, 10 delimited, 12 supplied with double spokes. 2 (7%) black cars, 1 delimited, none supplied on double spokes. Thus 39% were delimited and 43% were supplied on double spoke wheels. All cars fully optioned as listed above and had climate comfort screens fitted. Australian Build cars Month by Month Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN Sep-02 0 - Oct-02 0 - Nov-02 0 - Dec-02 1 - JC98003 JC98003 Jan-03 0 - Feb-03 0 - Mar-03 0 - Apr-03 0 - May-03 0 - Jun-03 0 - Jul-03 13 - JC98027 JC98116 Aug-03 0 - Sep-03 8 - JC98202 JC98255 Oct-03 4 - JC98310 JC98384 Nov-03 1 - JC98488 JC98488 Dec-03 1 - JC98542 JC98542 New Zealand cars 10 cars plus one South African Preproduction car that was sold through the BMW network which is actually included in the SA data above, thus I will exclude. 8 silver cars, 5 delimited, none supplied with double spokes. 2 black cars, none delimited, none supplied with double spokes. Options: 10 with an alarm. 10 with Smokers package. 10 with air conditioning. 1 with a CD player. 9 with a radio. 10 shipped with the battery master switch. New Zealand vehicles (by data deduction)build month by month Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN Sep-02 0 Oct-02 0 Nov-02 0 Dec-02 0 Jan-03 0 Feb-03 0 Mar-03 0 Apr-03 0 May-03 0 Jun-03 0 Jul-03 0 Aug-03 0 Sep-03 10 - JC98219 JC98241 Oct-03 0 Nov-03 0 Dec-03 0 That leaves 13 unknown market RHD vehicles 2 were preproduction. Of these 13, 3 where "Oceania cars". The Oceania cars were: All Silver cars, none delimited. All had the MY04 coil on plug options which I guess all went to the same market. All had a green tint windscreen. 2 had an alarm system. None had floor mats. None had the smokers package. 2 had headlight cleaning system. All had PDC. 2 had rain sensor. All had xenons. All had air conditioning. All had a CD player. All had a radio. All were shipped with a battery master switch. All had English literature packs. That leaves 8 unknown region vehicles. These comprised of: All 8 were silver, none were delimited. All had an alarm. All had floor mats. All had smokers package. All had xenon. All were shipped with a battery master switch. All had English literature packs. 7 had headlight cleaning system. 7 had PDC. 7 had rain sensor. 7 had air conditioning. 7 had a CD player. 7 had a radio. 7 had a 2 stage brake light. Unknown RHD market Vehicles(Suspect Hong Kong) Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN Sep-02 0 - Oct-02 0 - Nov-02 0 - Dec-02 0 - Jan-03 0 - Feb-03 0 - Mar-03 0 - Apr-03 0 - May-03 0 - Jun-03 0 - Jul-03 0 - Aug-03 0 - Sep-03 4 - JC98201 JC98239 Oct-03 1 - JC98292 JC98292 Nov-03 1 - JC98471 JC98471 Dec-03 2 - JC98538 JC98545 Ther was also one pre-production RHD car, JC98008 that was built as a Japanese car. This is interesting as all of the Japanese production cars were LHD, so I don't know why they would build this car. And that is pretty much it for the RHD production run of the CSL. I hope that has answered some questions. If anyone has any specific combination queries please ask. Last edited by NBTBRV8; 03-07-2014 at 10:51 AM. Reason: Final (?) update to the RHD production data

28-07-2012, 12:27 PM	#2
Trawler Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,213 Casino cash: $25916	Very interesting, are you planning to add any more info on rhd cars? Can you shed some more light on the battery switch (where is it located) & fuel tank?

28-07-2012, 12:57 PM	#4
born2boost S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 32 Casino cash: $1481	Thanks for the interesting info!!! I find it weird that South Africa only had 60 in total? What happened to the other 5? My cars tag shows No.10 of 65...? Also...I was told by a friend that the Main Battery switch was something that was removed by the dealer from the car when it reached its relative country...it was apparently a switch to disconnect the battery while the car was being transported. I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct information though... I'm happy to know that my car is one of the few that had almost all of the optional extras!

28-07-2012, 01:23 PM	#6
born2boost S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 32 Casino cash: $1481	I doubt that...as I haven't seen or heard of any LHD models here, and I know that the law does not allow the importing of LHD cars into the country either... Is there any chance that your info could be mistaken with the figure of 60?? I doubt that BMW would say 65 but then only produce 60...? I can understand the test car but 5 short seems unlikely?

28-07-2012, 01:32 PM	#8
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28-07-2012, 01:42 PM	#9
born2boost S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 32 Casino cash: $1481	Could be so...who knows?? If it is indeed the case...then that makes the CSL even more of a scarce item in SA!!! Definitely some good info here...thanks!!

28-07-2012, 01:54 PM	#10
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