BMW warranty, must be serviced by BMW?

[giraffe]

Originally Posted by Barry C

ABSOLUTELY. I know you and Elms come highly regarded and I'm sure you do a great job but some of the BMW garages in Ireland wont know what a CSL is..

i no mate , have you bedded in that clutch nice and gently

[SachaR]

Hi, Might be of interest to future owners, when I sold my csl via Nick Johnson, he managed to get a BMW warrenty even though the car had not had its previous 3 services done by a Stealer (in Italy they are know for not even carrying out the work or changing the parts they charge you for!!!!).

Supposedly as with new cars, warrenties must be upholded even if not service by dealers on the condition that the correct parts are used for the service. The dealer who supplied the warrenty on my car said it was covered on the condition that if something failed, as long as it was official BMW parts it would be no problem.

[Bounce]

Originally Posted by SachaR

Hi, Might be of interest to future owners, when I sold my csl via Nick Johnson, he managed to get a BMW warrenty even though the car had not had its previous 3 services done by a Stealer (in Italy they are know for not even carrying out the work or changing the parts they charge you for!!!!).

Supposedly as with new cars, warrenties must be upholded even if not service by dealers on the condition that the correct parts are used for the service. The dealer who supplied the warrenty on my car said it was covered on the condition that if something failed, as long as it was official BMW parts it would be no problem.

But once you have the BMW warranty,BMW must service it.

[shimmy]

And getting a BMW warranty is No guarantee of them covering you. The car has to have been serviced properly. They don't check this when they take the policy on.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

I think you will find that the Law is, that
if a Car is serviced at the correct service intervals
and all or any recalls are carried out within the
prescirbed timeframe for the Warranty work,
and that original parts are used and the
Garage is Type approved, be they a Main Dealer
or not, then any Claim under Warranty can be
corrected or replaced by a Manufactures dealer.

It was a European directive a few years ago,
to try and prevent Manufactures seeking
to create a Monopoloy on Servicing and refusing
to do Warranty work upon non franchised but
correctly serviced Cars.

Thus if your Local Independant is type accredited
and did Servicing on the Car using original parts
then the Manufactuer has to warrant the Warranty.

You might not get to be the first in the que but they
can not refuse to repair.

However the Law itself starts to colour Grey when
you get into extended Warranties etc due to the
arguement of, is this just a continuation of
the original existing Warranty in Law ?
or is this a New Warranty external of the original
Manufacturers Warranty Period as it now upholds
new Caveats and stipulations.

So, if you have a BMW Warranty and the Car has been
serviced in accordance with the correct service intervals
using original BMW Parts, then as long as the Independant
is accredited, BMW have to honour all and any Warranty
work, unless they can prove faulty workmanship regarding
installation and or fitting of parts is to blame.

In short a fucking minefield that Solicitors and Barristers love
with aplomb.



Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Bounce]

Originally Posted by The Gorilla

Hi,

I think you will find that the Law is, that
if a Car is serviced at the correct service intervals
and all or any recalls are carried out within the
prescirbed timeframe for the Warranty work,
and that original parts are used and the
Garage is Type approved, be they a Main Dealer
or not, then any Claim under Warranty can be
corrected or replaced by a Manufactures dealer.

It was a European directive a few years ago,
to try and prevent Manufactures seeking
to create a Monopoloy on Servicing and refusing
to do Warranty work upon non franchised but
correctly serviced Cars.

Thus if your Local Independant is type accredited
and did Servicing on the Car using original parts
then the Manufactuer has to warrant the Warranty.

You might not get to be the first in the que but they
can not refuse to repair.

However the Law itself starts to colour Grey when
you get into extended Warranties etc due to the
arguement of, is this just a continuation of
the original existing Warranty in Law ?
or is this a New Warranty external of the original
Manufacturers Warranty Period as it now upholds
new Caveats and stipulations.

So, if you have a BMW Warranty and the Car has been
serviced in accordance with the correct service intervals
using original BMW Parts, then as long as the Independant
is accredited, BMW have to honour all and any Warranty
work, unless they can prove faulty workmanship regarding
installation and or fitting of parts is to blame.

In short a fucking minefield that Solicitors and Barristers love
with aplomb.



Regards,

The Gorilla.

I agree with what you are saying and that when your BMW is new and under manufacturers 3 year warranty,you can get it serviced anywhere you like,as long as OEM parts are used at the right times.But for the extendable warranty it does say in the wording that an approved BMW workshop must be used.I cant see any solicitor getting you out of this.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

The Reason why its should also apply to
extended Warranty is that BMW do not
actually do the Warranty.

BMW Warranties are undertaken by an Insurance
company, not BMW directly, which is subsequently taken on
by the Insurance Group's Underwritters.

Thus the European Ruling is that
its against European Anti Competition Law to
sell a Third Party Insurance, [Warranty] to any indvidual
that is 'invalid' should the indvidual elect to
have the item [Car] repaired by an Agent
of their choice that is competent to undertake that
repair using original replacement or uprated
original manufactures parts.

There is even a black hole there somewhere,
that repairs are still covered if undertaken without
manufactures parts, in that if the parts used can be proven
to be of equall or better quality than those as
originally specified.

Its the reason why if your Insurance company advocates that
you can only have your car repaired by 'x' after a
accident, it is actually unlwaful.

Much case Law on that topic for sure.

As I said its a minefield at which the Legal Industry
rubs its hands in glee.

Nothing like a emotional contested dispute to get
the fee metre rotating.

Nothing more emotional to most than,
Cars, Divorce and Wills !!!

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[Barry C]

Block Exemption - Protecting Your Warranty and Saving You Money

Due to changes in European legislation block exemption means that your manufacturers warranty will not be made invalid if you bring your Porsche or Lotus to us for servicing. We will service your car in accordance with the manufacturer's specification using genuine Porsche or Lotus parts.

In October 2003 European Union legislation affecting the motor trade came into force. Its full title is 'Block Exemption Regulations 1400/2002' (in short 'BER').

This legislation changes the way cars may be serviced and repaired and gives motorists a lot more freedom in their decision as to who should look after their cars.

Before BER, it was very difficult to have cars, which were still covered by the manufacturer's warranty, serviced anywhere except a franchised dealer. Now motorists can use any garage of their choice to service their cars without invaliding the manufacturer's warranty.

The latest revision of the BER introduces four 'freedoms' that are aimed at safeguarding free competition in the entire market for vehicle spare parts, service and repair. They affect the way in which the parts distributor can act in the market.

We have compiled a PDF outlining the Block Exemption legislation in full detail. You may download it here.

Taked from a porsche indy's website, sounds good

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Barry C

Taked from a porsche indy's website, sounds good

But just as Gorilla said, it only applies to Manufacturers Warranty period. As son as you get later warranty it does not apply.

[shane@mbtech]

You contact mondial for warranty. You enter a contract with mondial, you are effectively buying insurance, you abide by the contract you agreed to.
If you dont like said contract, dont agree or proceed.

Oh hang on, its too fucking good to not proceed


Pretty simple to me.