So who has the most highly modified CSL? - Page 11

Pooky · 03-03-2013, 09:24 AM

I've read through this thread twice now, still baffled.

**cantfind1** · 03-03-2013, 09:41 AM

Hey Mike......if you want to speak to someone about getting some extra power out of an S54 then give George at Technosport BMW a call...

http://www.technosport.co.uk/

Have a look at his race car engine and the power it develops on an engine dyno....There's a good vid on youtube. This would be too extreme for a road car but somewhere in between would be perfect for you it seems!

If you can find a cheap CSL S54 engine then its a big improvement due to cams and exhaust valves....Just stick it in a standard M3...

_Nathan_ · 03-03-2013, 09:53 AM

Last time I saw that car racing the engine lasted 9 laps before shitting itself so kinda proves thr point. Was very fast though.

**AlexGTT** · 03-03-2013, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curly

Wow mick what an awesome vid! Carn't believe how fast ya took them Kramer curves

And ya braking into the turns was unreal,how many G's ya pulling? Great work fella

Carn't wait till ya get a CSL bud,I carn't believe your not a racing already!!!

I thought similar.

How's the scalp bag looking John?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Has Lancashire just come out of Hibernation

I think he's only opened one eye. Wait till he's fully awake.

**shimmy** · 03-03-2013, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

I think he's only opened one eye. Wait till he's fully awake.

Japs?

**AlexGTT** · 03-03-2013, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Japs?

Ol' one eye?

The Gorilla · 03-03-2013, 11:26 AM

Hi,

Quote - ''I thought you were a Cecil expert ?

Firstly the claimed factory figure is 355bhp (360PS) and secondly, very few make that figure.....

I am no expert on CSL's, never claimed to be,
never said that the std car makes 360 BHP either,
simple search would qualify my own thoughts
on that.
I actually said a CSL with 360 BHP.

So maybe good to heed your own advice on assumptions ?

TB's with Throttle actuators give almost the
same response as Roller Barrels, so its more
bling than really zing.

Your Turbo is heavily modified due to ''heat issues'',
[which was my point not assumption]
and replacing the Turbo Spindles with a larger
spindle made of better material has been
done for years.
Michelotto were doing in the late 80' early 90's.

As regards air temps the reason for asking
for a different mean temp reading was to see
what degregration the engine suffers performace
wise, as large fans blowing nice cool air through
static Charge Cooling in not real world.

As regards the chassis its the mechanical grip that
keeps the ''patch'' in contact.

As I said fun Car, but not for me.

I will watch out for your super S54 though
with great interest.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

chicken · 03-03-2013, 12:04 PM

Geeez I go out for 1 night and its now the zooped-upregister haha

Mike, the csl doesn't need countless pounds spent on power upgrades to make up for development inefficiencies that other manufacturers like fawd might release to market. Do you think ken block drives a fiesta?

Yeah most of us do suspension, brakes etc, but these aren't really necessary. If you want a great stock car, then get a csl, if you want a car to change so far from factory then buy a normal e46 m3.

Strange thread though, but modified some are to the point they can never go back to stock, even engine mods are reversible if you replace it. But not sure you were ever after cages etc etc, just POWER level 9000!!! Which is fun to watch on YouTube but in practise quite futile.

Enjoy here's a 1000hp csl

http://youtu.be/GnGgRSttb6o

Curly · 03-03-2013, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

I thought similar.

How's the scalp bag looking John?

I think he's only opened one eye. Wait till he's fully awake.

April delivery now

englebert · 03-03-2013, 06:53 PM

I'd just get a normal M3 and put in a V10.

IMO, you get used to just about any power output; it becomes the norm pretty quickly. You've said you have a track car, so what is the point in the CSL? A fast road car which you can not exploit anywhere? Why not just fit space saver wheels all round...will feel like it has 1000bhp.

03-03-2013, 09:53 AM	#103
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Last time I saw that car racing the engine lasted 9 laps before shitting itself so kinda proves thr point. Was very fast though. __________________ Nathan

03-03-2013, 12:04 PM	#108
chicken S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London Posts: 172 Casino cash: $1927	Geeez I go out for 1 night and its now the zooped-upregister haha Mike, the csl doesn't need countless pounds spent on power upgrades to make up for development inefficiencies that other manufacturers like fawd might release to market. Do you think ken block drives a fiesta? Yeah most of us do suspension, brakes etc, but these aren't really necessary. If you want a great stock car, then get a csl, if you want a car to change so far from factory then buy a normal e46 m3. Strange thread though, but modified some are to the point they can never go back to stock, even engine mods are reversible if you replace it. But not sure you were ever after cages etc etc, just POWER level 9000!!! Which is fun to watch on YouTube but in practise quite futile. Enjoy here's a 1000hp csl http://youtu.be/GnGgRSttb6o Last edited by chicken; 03-03-2013 at 12:07 PM.

03-03-2013, 06:53 PM	#110
englebert S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 397 Casino cash: $705	I'd just get a normal M3 and put in a V10. IMO, you get used to just about any power output; it becomes the norm pretty quickly. You've said you have a track car, so what is the point in the CSL? A fast road car which you can not exploit anywhere? Why not just fit space saver wheels all round...will feel like it has 1000bhp. __________________ '03 SG CSL - SOLD Making do with a CSL replica, 1M and E90 M3.

03-03-2013, 09:24 AM	#101
Pooky S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 187 Casino cash: $11992	I've read through this thread twice now, still baffled.

03-03-2013, 09:41 AM	#102
cantfind1 S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 675 Casino cash: $6490	Hey Mike......if you want to speak to someone about getting some extra power out of an S54 then give George at Technosport BMW a call... http://www.technosport.co.uk/ Have a look at his race car engine and the power it develops on an engine dyno....There's a good vid on youtube. This would be too extreme for a road car but somewhere in between would be perfect for you it seems! If you can find a cheap CSL S54 engine then its a big improvement due to cams and exhaust valves....Just stick it in a standard M3...

03-03-2013, 11:26 AM	#107
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Quote - ''I thought you were a Cecil expert ? Firstly the claimed factory figure is 355bhp (360PS) and secondly, very few make that figure..... I am no expert on CSL's, never claimed to be, never said that the std car makes 360 BHP either, simple search would qualify my own thoughts on that. I actually said a CSL with 360 BHP. So maybe good to heed your own advice on assumptions ? TB's with Throttle actuators give almost the same response as Roller Barrels, so its more bling than really zing. Your Turbo is heavily modified due to ''heat issues'', [which was my point not assumption] and replacing the Turbo Spindles with a larger spindle made of better material has been done for years. Michelotto were doing in the late 80' early 90's. As regards air temps the reason for asking for a different mean temp reading was to see what degregration the engine suffers performace wise, as large fans blowing nice cool air through static Charge Cooling in not real world. As regards the chassis its the mechanical grip that keeps the ''patch'' in contact. As I said fun Car, but not for me. I will watch out for your super S54 though with great interest. Regards, The Gorilla.