Clio Cup touring car 1st outing Mallory park

[sailorbaz]

Smart shopping trolley you got there! Seriously, looks like a class little weapon. Would love something like this as a hobby, must get finger out once settled into a new house with pukka garage.

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Last Brands pole was 52.1 in Clio cup, that is one of the circuits that suits them.

Last time they were at Donny pole was 1:18.8, no one else in the 19s, some trackday guys in GT3s are in the 17s, last year at Snet pole time was 1:17.9, a few were slower than Shim in his CSL on road tyres.

Not sure how true but tales of the top teams stripping the boxes between each round for inspection, box rebuild every year etc.

Spend a little more and get a Seat Leon Super Copa, quicker than a G50 or a 996 Cup car, proper weapon.

Nathan

I had a blast against a seat super copa @oulton in the csl, I was running 1.56 1 lap and rest in 1.57's that day. He was same pace, if not a fraction slower. It did corner well, it was on slicks too. It was 300bhp.

I know its not concrete proof etcetc, as we dont know if the guy was very fast, but he was certainly trying and he races the thing, amongst other cars.
And I know trackdays are nothing like racing, but its the only thing I have to go on.

I am certainly keeping options open,

I want to race, thats why I bought the MK, but this years a no no with bambino 2 on the way. Very busy year this yr and next.

The seat appeals as the DSG is pretty good and we know the VW scene very well, a few friends own VW tuning companies.

[_Nathan_]

Trust me matey, with an equal driver the Seat is miles quicker, when they ran as BTCC support they had to be slowed down so as not be lapping quicker than the touring cars!

Guess the problem with all these things is in order to get to the original pace you have to spend money, keep on top of set up & refresh intervals and most of all fresh tyres and be a quick driver. I suspect that getting the last 5% out of these things is pretty hard?

There is 2 secs a lap on my car between old tyres and new ones, but I'm fucked if I'm wasting a grand of tyres on a trackday, guess the same is true of most of these cars on trackdays too.

As an idea, in slowed down form in 2008 the qually times were as follows all at the same meets so should all be similar conditions:

Circuit ------------ Clio ------ Seat

Brands Indy ------- 52.7 ----- 50.1
Snet -------------- 1:17.5 --- 1:12.9
Donny ------------ 1:18.4 --- 1:14.7
OP Island --------- 1:35.3 ---- 1:29.2

Seat sport have a 330bhp map, you can go higher if you want but I wouldn't personally, fit the AP Pro5000 brake kit and you have a properly fast car.

You certainly ain't getting in the 12s at Snet or 14s at Donny in a CSL on road tyres!

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Trust me matey, with an equal driver the Seat is miles quicker, when they ran as BTCC support they had to be slowed down so as not be lapping quicker than the touring cars!

Guess the problem with all these things is in order to get to the original pace you have to spend money, keep on top of set up & refresh intervals and most of all fresh tyres and be a quick driver. I suspect that getting the last 5% out of these things is pretty hard?

There is 2 secs a lap on my car between old tyres and new ones, but I'm fucked if I'm wasting a grand of tyres on a trackday, guess the same is true of most of these cars on trackdays too.

As an idea, in slowed down form in 2008 the qually times were as follows all at the same meets so should all be similar conditions:

Circuit ------------ Clio ------ Seat

Brands Indy ------- 52.7 ----- 50.1
Snet -------------- 1:17.5 --- 1:12.9
Donny ------------ 1:18.4 --- 1:14.7
OP Island --------- 1:35.3 ---- 1:29.2

Seat sport have a 330bhp map, you can go higher if you want but I wouldn't personally, fit the AP Pro5000 brake kit and you have a properly fast car.

You certainly ain't getting in the 12s at Snet or 14s at Donny in a CSL on road tyres!

Thats some very fast times mate, as I said I only had the trackday to go on, which frankly means fuch all.

They certainly are a future consideration,

thanks for the info

1.29 is top csl cup spec pace at oulton, not too shabby, and I imagine cheaper to run too

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

You certainly ain't getting in the 12s at Snet or 14s at Donny in a CSL on road tyres!

Give me 9 more years

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Give me 9 more years

If I push you hard enough, I reckon its possible in march

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by lawsy

If I push you hard enough, I reckon its possible in march

I think you'll have to literally push me down the straight!

[shane159]

Originally Posted by lawsy

Nathan

I had a blast against a seat super copa @oulton in the csl, I was running 1.56 1 lap and rest in 1.57's that day. He was same pace, if not a fraction slower. It did corner well, it was on slicks too. It was 300bhp.

I know its not concrete proof etcetc, as we dont know if the guy was very fast, but he was certainly trying and he races the thing, amongst other cars.
And I know trackdays are nothing like racing, but its the only thing I have to go on.

I am certainly keeping options open,

I want to race, thats why I bought the MK, but this years a no no with bambino 2 on the way. Very busy year this yr and next.

The seat appeals as the DSG is pretty good and we know the VW scene very well, a few friends own VW tuning companies.

One here for you buddy:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/seat-supacopa-...item2a0dca96d6

[_Nathan_]

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...t_Hot_Rod.html

Seems cheap Lawsy...

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...t_Hot_Rod.html

Seems cheap Lawsy...

The mk goes up for sale and this is a very possible future purchase

Need to get the Evo all done, then get rid of mk and I'll be Clio/seat hunting


Got a busy yr so get it out the way then try to race