Csl v gt3 996

[Mike R]

Stock car -vs- stock car with same driver (good old Horst ), 996 GT3 = 7.54, CSL = 7.50 ('ring lap time). All the info you need .

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by billyboysm3

Change everything on it :banged:

But hey the CSL set the bench mark so high and easy to drive fast.

Thank god!

[LaSource]

Originally Posted by Mike R

Stock car -vs- stock car with same driver (good old Horst ), 996 GT3 = 7.54, CSL = 7.50 ('ring lap time). All the info you need .

Stop it

We also need to know tyres.
996.1GT3 was PS2 I believe
CSL was Cup 1s

996.2GT3 was never quoted with Cup tyres I believe




...but before we start a brand war, I did say that on the clock the delta between the two cars at the ring is not all that much

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by LaSource

Stop it

We also need to know tyres.
996.1GT3 was PS2 I believe
CSL was Cup 1s

996.2GT3 was never quoted with Cup tyres I believe




...but before we start a brand war, I did say that on the clock the delta between the two cars at the ring is not all that much

I still dont know why that is a factor.....GT3 didnt come with Cups

[LaSource]

Originally Posted by shimmy

I still dont know why that is a factor.....GT3 didnt come with Cups

N-spec Cups for the GT3 were made available after launch.

Anyway, the two cars are close enough that the biggest determinant is the driver behind the wheel. A better driver will be faster than a less accomplished one whichever of the two cars he/she picks.

[cslsuperfan]

Originally Posted by Pip1968

Yes it is very much live by the sword die by the sword but then plenty of CSL have gone despite DSC. What does the BMW booklet say ... something about it not being able to defy the laws of physics. It is of course still an elevated risk.

Was it actually in the Foxhole or the bend into Adenauer Forst? You do see a lot going too fast into the chicane at Adenauer. Hopefully it was repairable.

Pip

Pip ,
it was the left hander just after the compression. just tried grabbing an extra tenth from the kurb and hey presto.
This was an unusual error from a very competent driver....8 minutes full lap!

Car is now OK and thankfully no one was hurt ( kept us amused in the Pistonklause for a couple of nights!!!)

[Pip1968]

Ah yes there, the L hander before Adenauer Forst. I seem to remember that a known 'face' on here also had a bit of an episode there and had to make a recovery in his CSL due to upsetting the car on the curb. It must have been a year or two ago (probably longer - not sure if it was "Hobby driver") and was posted on here.

Main thing is the car has recovered, the driver increased his knowledge of the Nordchleife and most of all the car is being enjoyed as it should. There is a post on the 911UK site in the GT/RS section asking if anyone still tracks their cars. It is a sad day when a CSL or GT3 is sat in a garage. You are a long time dead .

Pip

[Trawler]

Yes pip.
Too many people are too scared to experience life. I don't know if this is because more people have an interest in making money, or the fecking elf and safety culture. A lot of the teenagers/20/30 old kids that I know are just boring. And that's coming from a right old fahrt.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Originally Posted by Trawler

Yes pip.
Too many people are too scared to experience life. I don't know if this is because more people have an interest in making money, or the fecking elf and safety culture. A lot of the teenagers/20/30 old kids that I know are just boring. And that's coming from a right old fahrt.

[Pooky]

Originally Posted by Pip1968

Ah yes there, the L hander before Adenauer Forst. I seem to remember that a known 'face' on here also had a bit of an episode there and had to make a recovery in his CSL due to upsetting the car on the curb. It must have been a year or two ago (probably longer - not sure if it was "Hobby driver") and was posted on here.

Main thing is the car has recovered, the driver increased his knowledge of the Nordchleife and most of all the car is being enjoyed as it should. There is a post on the 911UK site in the GT/RS section asking if anyone still tracks their cars. It is a sad day when a CSL or GT3 is sat in a garage. You are a long time dead .

Pip

Was nice to see just how many GT3s there were at DN this year, but only one CSL if I recall.