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Old 28-10-2010, 04:14 PM   #1
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Am I going to be OK? (they have good tread on them but obv still look a bit more like slicks than your usual tyres)

Can imagine that some MoT places might not like them..

Have spare rims with normal tyres but don't partic want to have to swap over.

Thought I had a doc put together by Michelin to help specifically with this issue, but can't find it now...got it from mtorque from memory.

(have got one on feeding and caring for Cups if anyone wants it!)
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Old 28-10-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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You should be fine Dan, so long as they have legal tread and are DOT marked then a decent MOT tester can't turn it down surely!?
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Old 28-10-2010, 04:21 PM   #3
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You never know Dan, found it so will print this off in case!

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Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyres, although developed very much with track day and competition use in mind, are road legal. They therefore comply with GB law in the ‘Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1986’ – as amended. A requirement of these regulations is that car tyres must conform to ‘United Nations ECE Regulation 30’. To demonstrate this each tyre carries an ‘E2’ mark on one or both sidewalls and an adjacent type approval number.

Michelin Pilot Sport and MOT inspections:

The Construction and Use Regulation 27, which applies to the condition and maintenance of tyres, states that the grooves of the tread pattern shall be of a depth of at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising the central three quarters of the breadth of tread and round the entire circumference of the tyre. However, the regulation also states that any tread features that are designed to wear out substantially before the rest of the tread pattern under normal conditions of use – in this case the features in the outer bands of the Pilot Sport Cup tyre – are not subject to the 1.6mm depth requirement.

Therefore, when a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyre is being checked at an MOT test station, the 1.6mm minimum tread depth regulation applies only to the tyre’s principal grooves, those containing the wear indicators. The shallower features around the outer bands of the tyres should not be taken into account and the Vehicle Inspectorate support this position.

The MOT inspector can verify the above point by referring to “The MOT Inspection Manual” section 4.1 (tyres) issue date June 2002, issued by the Vehicle Inspectorate. In order to avoid any inconvenience or delay during a vehicle (MOT) test or roadside inspection we suggest that you carry a copy of this note in your vehicle.

For information, the original tread depth of Michelin Pilot Sport’s principal grooves containing the wear indicators is 5mm, and the depth of the features around the tyre’s outer bands is 2.5mm.

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Old 28-10-2010, 04:38 PM   #4
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Am I going to be OK? (they have good tread on them but obv still look a bit more like slicks than your usual tyres)

Can imagine that some MoT places might not like them..

Have spare rims with normal tyres but don't partic want to have to swap over.

Thought I had a doc put together by Michelin to help specifically with this issue, but can't find it now...got it from mtorque from memory.

(have got one on feeding and caring for Cups if anyone wants it!)
Spine on a bap[Elliot] posted that doc on M-Torque,give him a Pm and he will send it to you.
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Old 28-10-2010, 04:43 PM   #5
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You never know Dan, found it so will print this off in case!

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Michelin Pilot Sport Cup

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyres, although developed very much with track day and competition use in mind, are road legal. They therefore comply with GB law in the ‘Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1986’ – as amended. A requirement of these regulations is that car tyres must conform to ‘United Nations ECE Regulation 30’. To demonstrate this each tyre carries an ‘E2’ mark on one or both sidewalls and an adjacent type approval number.

Michelin Pilot Sport and MOT inspections:

The Construction and Use Regulation 27, which applies to the condition and maintenance of tyres, states that the grooves of the tread pattern shall be of a depth of at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising the central three quarters of the breadth of tread and round the entire circumference of the tyre. However, the regulation also states that any tread features that are designed to wear out substantially before the rest of the tread pattern under normal conditions of use – in this case the features in the outer bands of the Pilot Sport Cup tyre – are not subject to the 1.6mm depth requirement.

Therefore, when a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyre is being checked at an MOT test station, the 1.6mm minimum tread depth regulation applies only to the tyre’s principal grooves, those containing the wear indicators. The shallower features around the outer bands of the tyres should not be taken into account and the Vehicle Inspectorate support this position.

The MOT inspector can verify the above point by referring to “The MOT Inspection Manual” section 4.1 (tyres) issue date June 2002, issued by the Vehicle Inspectorate. In order to avoid any inconvenience or delay during a vehicle (MOT) test or roadside inspection we suggest that you carry a copy of this note in your vehicle.

For information, the original tread depth of Michelin Pilot Sport’s principal grooves containing the wear indicators is 5mm, and the depth of the features around the tyre’s outer bands is 2.5mm.

Steve Dolby
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Is this what you were going to send me Nathanan ??? ... months back !
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Old 28-10-2010, 04:47 PM   #6
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I have the letter somewhere, think it's in the car. Will nip out and see now.

Found it, here it is in a bmp file, if you like I can e-mail a PDF file and if anyone know's how to upload that onto here, I'll e-mail it to them too.



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God, it's amazing what can happen in the 10 mins you nip out to the car to root out a letter.

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