996.2 Manthey GT3 for sale

niall1 · 07-03-2014, 12:07 PM

I have driven an M3 CSL as my daily driver for a number of years but had grown tired of the ‘DSC’ and ‘M Mode’ interventions, plus having to press a ‘Sport’ button to experience the full aural and edgy characteristics of the car. I wanted to take a step back to a truly analogue drive but still wanted a step up from the CSL. The 996 GT3 RS was the obvious answer and having researched and watched suitable cars for sale one came up that ticked my boxes (clean, original panel, average mileage but with some driver focused modifications). The selling garage even offered a trade in on the CSL that almost matched what I had paid for it a few years earlier. I contacted Revenue (here in Ireland) to establish what the potential VRT (an import tax we have to pay = 36% of the value of the car) hit was and hit a blank wall. ‘When you bring the car in and present it at your local NCT station for registration the ‘experts’ in Rosslare will calculate the value and VRT rate due at that time’, I was told. This made me very nervous as a potential (non-refundable at the time) tax bill for half or more of what I would pay for the car, was more than I could afford. Rather than take the chance I pulled out of the purchase of the RS and started looking at GT3’s instead. It had to be a Mk2 996 as Porsche’s continuous development of the 911 means each subsequent evolution is a significant improvement on the previous model. In the case of the GT3 the internet is alive with ‘experts’ claiming the exclusiveness of the ‘last hand built in Weissach’ production car. I was looking for the best analogue drivers car I could afford and the 996.2 GT3 fitted that bill. Renowned Porschephile Chris Harris would agree: http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=26071 and it was EVO Performance Car Of The Year in 2003 when it was launched, which was enough for me.
How could I match the RS driving experience without the potential VRT hit? This is where Manthey Racing step in. They have been working with Porsche since 1999 running the factory Cup cars at Le Mans and Nürburgring. The ultimate recognition of their success came in December when Porsche bought a majority stake in the company. Their base next to the Nürburgring also provides the ultimate test facility on their doorstep. I had seen some 996 RS’s for sale with Manthey modifications but Manthey Racing Converted 996 GT3’s (effectively an RS plus) were like hens teeth. As luck would have it when this car came up for sale (based on a Club Sport 996.2 GT3) the owner had already moved on to a new automotive toy and just wanted it sold. I had JZM complete a pre-purchase inspection. It turns out they knew the car well as they had maintained it in the past. It received a clean bill of health and when I personally inspected and test drove the car, it was obvious that it had never wanted for anything and had been serviced and maintained regardless of the cost throughout its previous 50k miles. I had to have it.. I wasn’t to be disappointed. I even managed a trackday in Mondello on my way home.

The car was sublime and helped me truly understand the excellence of the GT3 legend plus the skill of Olaf Manthey to further fine tune what was already a special driver’s car. The current suspension setup is neutral to mild over steer which perfectly complements the rear weight bias and the ‘slow in, fast out’ mantra of 911 driving. It was also the driving experience I was searching for. A step up from the CSL (debate ad-nauseum..), no Sport, Stability or other electronic nanny’s interfering, just how you last physically set the car when you turned the ignition off.

So why am I selling? Unfortunately life, work and family have taken priority and I’ve covered less than 500 miles in the 18 months that I’ve owned the car. I bought it to drive but that hasn’t happened so it’s time to pass it on to someone who will. While it’s fabulous to look at, resplendent in its Speed Yellow (the colour chosen by Porsche when Marketing the 996.2 GT3),

but it’s equally frustrating that I haven’t had the time to enjoy it and I can’t foresee the time presenting itself in the near future either, so it has to go and the subtle CSL with its ‘practical’ rear seats stays. Perhaps the new owner will take part in that Nordschleife Manthey Trackday I never did..

niall1 · 07-03-2014, 12:16 PM

Asking price is £47,995. The car is in London with Mr911.co.uk

Link to a pre-sale detail I had carried out on the car last week:
http://www.bmwhaus.ie/forum/showthread.php?tid=2628

Service history and details of modifications:
09/10/2004 Porsche Centre Silverstone 6,000 mile service
02/04/2005 JZM Geometry, Carbon metallic pads, seatbelt replaced, skim brakes and new fluids
04/05/2005 JZM Front disks and bells, Oil & Filter
05/07/2005 JZM Pagid RS29 and fresh brake fluid
25/07/2005 Porsche Centre Silverstone 12,000 mile service
05/05/2006 JZM Front disks, fresh fluids, alignment
16/06/2006 JZM Heat Shield, Brake Fluid
21/08/2006 Porsche Centre Silverstone MOT
20/11/2006 Porsche Centre Hatfield PPI, wheel refurb, warranty
24/05/2007 Porsche Centre Hatfield 24,000 mile service
03/08/2007 JZM 4 wheel alignment
22/04/2008 JZM Oil & Filter change, geometry check
22/11/2008 Porsche Centre Byfleet 36,000 mile service
28/05/2009 JZM Geometry, tyres, corner weights
28/05/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Brake Fluid Change
20/11/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Oil & Filter change, fit 997 short shift
20/11/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Front pads
07/09/2010 Mr911 Alternator
23/02/2011 Mr911 48,000 mile service, new clutch
11/05/2011 Precision Porsche MOT, Pilot Sport Tyres fitted
18/02/2012 Precision Porsche Service and new Air Con Condenser’s (incl re-gas), belts, Battery, rear brake disks, Bank 2 Cam solenoid
03/10/2012 Precision Porsche Completion of items from JZM PPI & installation of new rads.
07/03/2014 Alpina Motor Works Brake Fluid, Oil & Filter

Factory Modifications
1) Club Sport Lightweight Spec (1375Kg)
a) Rear ClubSport 1/2 cage (black)
b) Nomex Recaro Porsche (crested) Bucket Seats
c) Red Seat belts
d) Schroth Profi II-6 Harnesses
e) Electrical cut off switch
f) Fire extinguisher in passenger footwell
2) Leather Dashboard
3) Porsche over mats
4) Centre lower console delete option

Manthey Conversion (Manthey Germany & JZM UK)
1) M410 Package (0-100 Km/H 3.9s, V Max 315 Km/H - Source AutoBild.De)
a) Full Manthey exhaust including manifolds and race cats. (-6.7KG)
b) Manthey Remap - Manthey dyno printout 417PS
c) K&N filter
2) Manthey KW Variant 3 Fully Adjustable suspension.
3) Manthey Uniball strut tops.
4) Manthey/RS rear Carbon Fibre Wing.
5) Manthey Rear Air Collector.
6) GT3 Cup front cooling upgrade - canted radiators, airflow outlet at top of bumper and lower outlets blocked.
7) GT3 Cup/Porsche Motorsport Front PU Radiator Grills.
8 ) GT3 Cup front splitter.
9) GT3 Cup LSD.
10) GT3 Cup front and rear brake cooling upgrade.
11) 360mm anti-rattle floating Alcon Brake Discs (-1.5KG, 10mm larger diameter).
12) Pagid RS29 Brake Pads.
13) GT3 Cup Steering wheel (airbag removed).
14) 997 short shift.

Niall

LeinsCSL · 07-03-2014, 01:21 PM

Best of luck with the sale Niall. The spin you gave me in it last summer is still very much imprinted on my memory, superb car!

**DazBlackCSL** · 07-03-2014, 03:57 PM

Nice looking car, GLWS

niall1 · 30-04-2014, 11:39 AM

Now sold

LeinsCSL · 30-04-2014, 07:23 PM

Congrats / Commiserations Niall!

niall1 · 10-11-2015, 12:43 PM

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...96-mk2/4771567

Spotted my old car back up for sale and can't believe how much GT cars have jumped in value in only just over a year! I'll have to stop looking..

J13NY S · 10-11-2015, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niall1

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...96-mk2/4771567

Spotted my old car back up for sale and can't believe how much GT cars have jumped in value in only just over a year! I'll have to stop looking..

I'm sure this is the GT3 I looked at, was for sale at JZM late 2007/08, had a set of gold BBS E88 wheels on it at the time.

Was exceptionally clean back then and a good buy, my mistake for not buying it.

Didn't know it spent some time in Ireland?

niall1 · 11-11-2015, 06:55 AM

I had it for almost two years and did the grand total of 500miles hence the reason I sold it. I made up for it the weekend we took it back to the UK as we took in a day in Anglesey plus the RS owners day in Oulton Park.

Mega, mega machine. Well sorted with some serious money lavished on it by a previous owner. It was his 'Ring toy so it was stored in Germany for a while with Manthey Motors who also carried out a lot of the modifications.

It had silver BBS E88 wheels on it in my tenure. They're still in the shed..

J13NY S · 11-11-2015, 11:14 PM

500 or 5000 miles? Either way you didn’t put many miles on it but somebody has put miles on it, I don’t recall the precise mileage when I went over to see it but do remember it had similar mileage to my CSL at the time, my CSL now has 34k on it so back 8 years ago I’d say mileage would’ve been late teens.

It really is the perfect setup, at the time there was one here for sale considerably cheaper and there was a nice red one with an RS spoiler for sale in a Porsche dealer in Bristol with something like 6k miles but this car ticked so many boxes, I’ve thought about it over the years and compared it to others for sale and look back on it as the one that got away.

07-03-2014, 12:07 PM	#1
niall1 S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 214 Casino cash: $3375	996.2 Manthey GT3 for sale I have driven an M3 CSL as my daily driver for a number of years but had grown tired of the ‘DSC’ and ‘M Mode’ interventions, plus having to press a ‘Sport’ button to experience the full aural and edgy characteristics of the car. I wanted to take a step back to a truly analogue drive but still wanted a step up from the CSL. The 996 GT3 RS was the obvious answer and having researched and watched suitable cars for sale one came up that ticked my boxes (clean, original panel, average mileage but with some driver focused modifications). The selling garage even offered a trade in on the CSL that almost matched what I had paid for it a few years earlier. I contacted Revenue (here in Ireland) to establish what the potential VRT (an import tax we have to pay = 36% of the value of the car) hit was and hit a blank wall. ‘When you bring the car in and present it at your local NCT station for registration the ‘experts’ in Rosslare will calculate the value and VRT rate due at that time’, I was told. This made me very nervous as a potential (non-refundable at the time) tax bill for half or more of what I would pay for the car, was more than I could afford. Rather than take the chance I pulled out of the purchase of the RS and started looking at GT3’s instead. It had to be a Mk2 996 as Porsche’s continuous development of the 911 means each subsequent evolution is a significant improvement on the previous model. In the case of the GT3 the internet is alive with ‘experts’ claiming the exclusiveness of the ‘last hand built in Weissach’ production car. I was looking for the best analogue drivers car I could afford and the 996.2 GT3 fitted that bill. Renowned Porschephile Chris Harris would agree: http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=26071 and it was EVO Performance Car Of The Year in 2003 when it was launched, which was enough for me. How could I match the RS driving experience without the potential VRT hit? This is where Manthey Racing step in. They have been working with Porsche since 1999 running the factory Cup cars at Le Mans and Nürburgring. The ultimate recognition of their success came in December when Porsche bought a majority stake in the company. Their base next to the Nürburgring also provides the ultimate test facility on their doorstep. I had seen some 996 RS’s for sale with Manthey modifications but Manthey Racing Converted 996 GT3’s (effectively an RS plus) were like hens teeth. As luck would have it when this car came up for sale (based on a Club Sport 996.2 GT3) the owner had already moved on to a new automotive toy and just wanted it sold. I had JZM complete a pre-purchase inspection. It turns out they knew the car well as they had maintained it in the past. It received a clean bill of health and when I personally inspected and test drove the car, it was obvious that it had never wanted for anything and had been serviced and maintained regardless of the cost throughout its previous 50k miles. I had to have it.. I wasn’t to be disappointed. I even managed a trackday in Mondello on my way home. The car was sublime and helped me truly understand the excellence of the GT3 legend plus the skill of Olaf Manthey to further fine tune what was already a special driver’s car. The current suspension setup is neutral to mild over steer which perfectly complements the rear weight bias and the ‘slow in, fast out’ mantra of 911 driving. It was also the driving experience I was searching for. A step up from the CSL (debate ad-nauseum..), no Sport, Stability or other electronic nanny’s interfering, just how you last physically set the car when you turned the ignition off. So why am I selling? Unfortunately life, work and family have taken priority and I’ve covered less than 500 miles in the 18 months that I’ve owned the car. I bought it to drive but that hasn’t happened so it’s time to pass it on to someone who will. While it’s fabulous to look at, resplendent in its Speed Yellow (the colour chosen by Porsche when Marketing the 996.2 GT3), but it’s equally frustrating that I haven’t had the time to enjoy it and I can’t foresee the time presenting itself in the near future either, so it has to go and the subtle CSL with its ‘practical’ rear seats stays. Perhaps the new owner will take part in that Nordschleife Manthey Trackday I never did.. __________________ Too many cars..

07-03-2014, 12:16 PM	#2
niall1 S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 214 Casino cash: $3375	Asking price is £47,995. The car is in London with Mr911.co.uk Link to a pre-sale detail I had carried out on the car last week: http://www.bmwhaus.ie/forum/showthread.php?tid=2628 Service history and details of modifications: 09/10/2004 Porsche Centre Silverstone 6,000 mile service 02/04/2005 JZM Geometry, Carbon metallic pads, seatbelt replaced, skim brakes and new fluids 04/05/2005 JZM Front disks and bells, Oil & Filter 05/07/2005 JZM Pagid RS29 and fresh brake fluid 25/07/2005 Porsche Centre Silverstone 12,000 mile service 05/05/2006 JZM Front disks, fresh fluids, alignment 16/06/2006 JZM Heat Shield, Brake Fluid 21/08/2006 Porsche Centre Silverstone MOT 20/11/2006 Porsche Centre Hatfield PPI, wheel refurb, warranty 24/05/2007 Porsche Centre Hatfield 24,000 mile service 03/08/2007 JZM 4 wheel alignment 22/04/2008 JZM Oil & Filter change, geometry check 22/11/2008 Porsche Centre Byfleet 36,000 mile service 28/05/2009 JZM Geometry, tyres, corner weights 28/05/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Brake Fluid Change 20/11/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Oil & Filter change, fit 997 short shift 20/11/2009 RSJ Sports Cars Front pads 07/09/2010 Mr911 Alternator 23/02/2011 Mr911 48,000 mile service, new clutch 11/05/2011 Precision Porsche MOT, Pilot Sport Tyres fitted 18/02/2012 Precision Porsche Service and new Air Con Condenser’s (incl re-gas), belts, Battery, rear brake disks, Bank 2 Cam solenoid 03/10/2012 Precision Porsche Completion of items from JZM PPI & installation of new rads. 07/03/2014 Alpina Motor Works Brake Fluid, Oil & Filter Factory Modifications 1) Club Sport Lightweight Spec (1375Kg) a) Rear ClubSport 1/2 cage (black) b) Nomex Recaro Porsche (crested) Bucket Seats c) Red Seat belts d) Schroth Profi II-6 Harnesses e) Electrical cut off switch f) Fire extinguisher in passenger footwell 2) Leather Dashboard 3) Porsche over mats 4) Centre lower console delete option Manthey Conversion (Manthey Germany & JZM UK) 1) M410 Package (0-100 Km/H 3.9s, V Max 315 Km/H - Source AutoBild.De) a) Full Manthey exhaust including manifolds and race cats. (-6.7KG) b) Manthey Remap - Manthey dyno printout 417PS c) K&N filter 2) Manthey KW Variant 3 Fully Adjustable suspension. 3) Manthey Uniball strut tops. 4) Manthey/RS rear Carbon Fibre Wing. 5) Manthey Rear Air Collector. 6) GT3 Cup front cooling upgrade - canted radiators, airflow outlet at top of bumper and lower outlets blocked. 7) GT3 Cup/Porsche Motorsport Front PU Radiator Grills. 8 ) GT3 Cup front splitter. 9) GT3 Cup LSD. 10) GT3 Cup front and rear brake cooling upgrade. 11) 360mm anti-rattle floating Alcon Brake Discs (-1.5KG, 10mm larger diameter). 12) Pagid RS29 Brake Pads. 13) GT3 Cup Steering wheel (airbag removed). 14) 997 short shift. Niall __________________ Too many cars.. Last edited by niall1; 26-03-2014 at 06:22 PM.

07-03-2014, 03:57 PM	#4
DazBlackCSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shaboogling Posts: 7,199 Casino cash: $28468	Nice looking car, GLWS __________________ CSL Register Lifestyle Coach and Social Secretary

30-04-2014, 11:39 AM	#5
niall1 S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 214 Casino cash: $3375	Now sold __________________ Too many cars..

10-11-2015, 12:43 PM	#7
niall1 S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 214 Casino cash: $3375	http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...96-mk2/4771567 Spotted my old car back up for sale and can't believe how much GT cars have jumped in value in only just over a year! I'll have to stop looking.. __________________ Too many cars..

07-03-2014, 01:21 PM	#3
LeinsCSL S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,240 Casino cash: $13662	Best of luck with the sale Niall. The spin you gave me in it last summer is still very much imprinted on my memory, superb car!

30-04-2014, 07:23 PM	#6
LeinsCSL S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,240 Casino cash: $13662	Congrats / Commiserations Niall!

11-11-2015, 06:55 AM	#9
niall1 S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 214 Casino cash: $3375	I had it for almost two years and did the grand total of 500miles hence the reason I sold it. I made up for it the weekend we took it back to the UK as we took in a day in Anglesey plus the RS owners day in Oulton Park. Mega, mega machine. Well sorted with some serious money lavished on it by a previous owner. It was his 'Ring toy so it was stored in Germany for a while with Manthey Motors who also carried out a lot of the modifications. It had silver BBS E88 wheels on it in my tenure. They're still in the shed.. __________________ Too many cars..

11-11-2015, 11:14 PM	#10
J13NY S S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 187 Casino cash: $7423	500 or 5000 miles? Either way you didn’t put many miles on it but somebody has put miles on it, I don’t recall the precise mileage when I went over to see it but do remember it had similar mileage to my CSL at the time, my CSL now has 34k on it so back 8 years ago I’d say mileage would’ve been late teens. It really is the perfect setup, at the time there was one here for sale considerably cheaper and there was a nice red one with an RS spoiler for sale in a Porsche dealer in Bristol with something like 6k miles but this car ticked so many boxes, I’ve thought about it over the years and compared it to others for sale and look back on it as the one that got away.