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Originally Posted by _Nathan_
if you remember the CSL was universally slated when it came out and it was massively overpriced and as such prices dropped 35% in the first 18 months, I don't see anything different with the GTS, once they are cheap enough everyone will fall in love with them as they did with the CSL.
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Time will tell Nathan as you've pointed out.
I don't believe this car was ever intended to be a CSL.
Yes the CSL is special - but a lot of the 'positives' about it only came about a couple of years after people realised and appreciated it for what it really is (some of it helped no doubt by the more civilised E9X M3).
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Originally Posted by _Nathan_
people said the same about the CSL, £20k more than an M3, it isn't even any faster, put those tyres on a normal M3 and you are 95% of the way there, there is nothing special about it etc etc.
Wait until there is some more information on how they've saved weight and what else has been done to it. Of course you could make a normal M3 faster for less money, same was true with the CSL too, the devil will be in the detail...
PS. Anyone know if the 7:40 time round the ring was with the tyres it has in the pictures? If it did that time on them then I'm amazed!
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That time was on the prototype apparently.
200kg isn't that easy to save - so I suspect there's probably more to it.
Also there's a mention in the article about the rear axel mount - appears to be different to the standard car.
No doubt BMW's using this as a plateform for their GT4 racing program - heck this to me makes it even more special - at least this car has some 'racing' lineage unlike the CSL which is basically a technological show pony (don't get me wrong I love the CSL for what it is, but it is not in the same league as a factory produced club racer) - If the CSL was the forefather of modern BMW factory specials (not counting the E30 M3 Sport Evolution), then the M3 GTS is simply the bastard child it had with a racecar
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Originally Posted by shimmy
i think that is what BMW thought as well.
TonyR is taking his E92 road car and my guess he will get a better and faster car than the GTS spending less than £20k
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You aren't comparing apples with apples - we can go on about modified cars and I too can say for way less money you might as well supercharge a 2001 E46 M3 and it'd run rings around a lot of things .... with all due respect, I do think some of you are missing the point of this car ...
This is probably in similar league as the E46 M3 GTR road version that was never really meant to be ... overpriced, built for homologation ... never sold (well not beyong 2 digits) - I am sure you'd all go gaga if you saw one on the road today ... I am sure this GTS will be in the same league some what.