Ive owned both mike, gtr is transformed with a different exhaust. I agree it is far too muted standard.
It is heavy and I know heavy on brakes, fuel, tyres. But still a great machine. Although ultimately I feel I will get better reward from an M3.
If I bought m3 I would put brakes, seats and suspension, much like I would do with csl.
Decisions.
I am tempted for another csl, would love to come kick shimmys ass
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Originally Posted by Mike R
Have you driven a GTR and a DCT M3? I considered the GTR before I bought the CSL, due to all the rave reviews. I really wanted to like it, as it appeared like it would do everything I wanted out of a car (fast road, track, long distances and the 'ring).
In standard format, it just didn't feel quick and the engine noise when it changed gears was like a slush box (I hate that kind of autobox tone change with a passion). It also felt nervy at big speeds (admittedly the suspension was on the hardest setting) and it's a very big car and so it is the weight that really sanitises the performance. As a by-product of this, it consumes the consumables (discs, pads and tyres) at a vast rate of knots when you start to abuse it - all of which leads to REALLY high running costs. Also, when used on track, you have to keep any eye on the transmission temps, if the oil goes over 125 deg, it HAS be changed, or Nissan will not warrant the transmission if a high temp is logged and it isn't renewed. However, it did nothing for me and sounded like a washing machine - I think they'd have to do an "RS" style version for me to be able to overlook this aspect.
If you're going for the M3, you'd probably want the Competition version - still the same issues as the GTR (weight), but it instantly needs aftermarket brakes and seats if you're going to use it like the CSL, as the standard ones are the usual M let-down, and it seems to be more of a GT car than a focused driver's car.
I've not driven the Cayman PDK and have no desire to - despite it being one of the best Porsches in cuurent production, as I like my Porsches to have the engine in the wrong place and with a manual 'box, although the new 991 GT3 is the first PDK car I have ever lusted after.
I realise you have to have something that changes gear for you, but the CSL really is rather special, even in this elevated company and I can't think of anything else suitable.
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