power steering goes again.
June 2015. Power steering hose splits and car towed to dealership to fit a new hose.
been having some whine and screeching while driving for the last 2 days and about 0.5 mile from home, I lost all power steering. limped home and opened the bonnet. No steam like there was previously but could see lots of fluid on the undertray. I don't know if it's another busted hose or a cracked pump. Is there a way to check the power steering fluid level? thanks will need to tow it to somewhere nearby to get it fixed.:bigcry: |
The reservoir is under the airbox and you have to remove the airbox to see it.
I think it's the hose. They tend to break relatively easy. |
have you tried aftermarket hoses? like Hack engineering ones?
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what is the power steering fluid to use
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tx. bought 2 L from opie
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Definitely a weak spot in the car - mine has gone once and i know of a fair few others that have had similar. :bigcry:
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Written on the cap |
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I'm fitting what came out.this car has atf in it
I've only ever seen atf come out of these so I don't know if they've been drained flushed and superseded |
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You're quite right mate, that's what I use. On certain cars we change the ATF to CHF-11S to eliminate certain noises, but it's not something I've seen recommended for the CSL. It may well work fine with the CHF-11S, not something I've ever needed to do though. I think between myself and Adem we look after a few E46 m3s....:supz: |
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Stand corrected. Confusion lies on realoem , label for oil container power steering pump chf11.s. :banghead: Cap says atf
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so i bought the wrong fluid then
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Any feedback on this guys,always interesting to hear if anybody has different views or experience on this subject, oil technology moves on,
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Adem fixed my power steering. Thanks mate
its lighter than I remember now. Perhaps it was indeed pinched leading to eventual failure. Think I will need the billet steering coupler for increased feel. |
Hi guys ,I'm still of the opinion chf can be used, Adem James are you still of the opinion chf shouldn't be used in Csl, as I may just give it a go in my csl to compare steering performance :thumbs:
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The techs that built the Csl must have genuinely thought that atf was sufficient for the power steering system and stuck to that.im not an oil guru so I can't comment further all I can say in my opinion is that the power steering works far less then the smg pump system.smg gets a lot hotter has far more functions as in its gotta control 3 hydraulic valves so it would be the obvious choice for that system.whereas your pas system is basically a loop around the rack.secondly the rack sits below the engine and it stays cooler as the cold air passes it and once moving steering is under less pressure to work as opposed to standstill turning this could be a factor in not using chf 11s.you would need a technical sheet to compare the 2 oils.its like dot 4 vs dot 5.2 brake fluid higher boiling temps but that will only count if you really abuse the brake system.so summary you could in deed use chf 11s if you felt like you Needed to but I'm sure if Bmw deemed it nesseccary they would have used it in first instance.dont forget they spent I think £95k developing the Csl and sold them at a loss of around £65k to get them outta the door.the techs we met who built the cars said if they had their way it would be so much more track orientated but the average car enthusiast had to be able to drive it.anyone agree? As I said I'm not an oil guru and I've not noticed any benefit switching brands |
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One last thought.as your atf cools then heats and cools and heats cycle it does start to break down turns brown kind of colour now simply changing the atf as good service practice will not only improve steering feel it will clear the system of worn debris floating in the oil.didyou know the reservoir has a filter in it.ive only seen it once but these can collapse or block causing steering to feel heavier then usual.these are only my opinions and not facts guys ok |
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I don't know as for cost factor all I recal hearing was that the cars cost more to make then they were sold for It's marketing proof that Bmw could make one of the most legendary cars ever.i think that's what their aim is regardless of all the new m series cars they have produced the Csl and e30 m3 evo sport are thier finest cars in my opinion |
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Can't hurt to try Mines at 76k I wanna bring it in and fit my headgasket and schrick cams |
Further to this power steering fluid,I’ve not had chance to try chf as yet. But I’m just going to do a part flush for now Do you just use the std semi synthetic atf dexron 111 “red” Oil anybody??? Was in bmw this morning and they couldn’t find a part number or any stock of atf at local dealership???? Just read bmw oil spec for power steering fluid , says to use equivalent to dexron11 Anybody know difference between dex11 and Dex111 ?? Is dexron 11 just a mineral oil, Dexron 111 is a semi synthetic, ....ok I’ve found it dexron 11 relates to mineral atf. Such as castrol TQ dexron 11d -22 765. Or castrol transmax sd21 923. Others Olso, used for older transmissions ha ha ,,so if you can’t find the correct type atf .. There nothing wrong with using chf11 as it’s the only synthetic atf that bmw recommends for out steering rach according to bmw data sheet, completely flush system of course ,, can’t go wrong that way,,
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Bit of a bugger when you go to bmw for a part number for the mineral atf,, and the don’t know ,, then you go to an independent motor factors , and with car details inc chassis no. Data system comes back with chf11 ,, Ok you can use this ,, so novice would probably mix the two ,, not good ! But are so called specialists Indi’s mixing the red semi synthetic atf with the red mineral atf,, could this be why the steering rach gets trashed , mabe you can mix the reds anybody???,, just a rant chaps all very confusing this atf:whistle:
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Speak to Gareth at Bartletts :) ?
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