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Csl spurs 29-01-2013 09:57 PM

Csl roof no longer available!!!!!!
 
Can't believe what happened today I ordered a new csl roof about 6 weeks ago from my local dealer and they told me there was none in the uk and a new one had to come from germany so i waited patiently and had a new roof delivered to work today unfortunately it was a new steel metal roof from a standard M3 I got straight on the phone to my local dealer and they said they would look into it as it had been ordered correctly I got a call later to say bmw were no longer making the csl roof and it had been super seeded! With the metal one I am totally lost for words as the roof is the biggest panel on the car and the panel that is a major part off the car and everything it stands for.As for putting a metal roof on the car this would simply kill the value off the car I'm really hopping someone can comment on this as I also thought manufacturers had to produce parts for a Minium off 10 years!:(

Equinox 29-01-2013 10:04 PM

Thanks interesting, will be good to see what people in the know have to say on here about it

shane@mbtech 29-01-2013 10:13 PM

Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

Yanto 29-01-2013 10:23 PM

I am buying #2 in the next 2 years.

alternatively, maybe Mark can get back downthe shed ?

Neil M 29-01-2013 10:24 PM

Gone the way of the 'Carbon Flippers' NLA from BMW, the appear to be winding down the CSL parts production at it approaches the 10yr model cycle.
Have you had a word with 'Bones' our in house recycler: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9677

Better still have a word with 'giraffe' he works for Elms, see what he has to say?

Yanto 29-01-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 133407)
Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

Fookin vulture ;)

Seriously though.......roof, splitters etc. surely someone can step in here ?

Bounce 29-01-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csl spurs (Post 133405)
Can't believe what happened today I ordered a new csl roof about 6 weeks ago from my local dealer and they told me there was none in the uk and a new one had to come from germany so i waited patiently and had a new roof delivered to work today unfortunately it was a new steel metal roof from a standard M3 I got straight on the phone to my local dealer and they said they would look into it as it had been ordered correctly I got a call later to say bmw were no longer making the csl roof and it had been super seeded! With the metal one I am totally lost for words as the roof is the biggest panel on the car and the panel that is a major part off the car and everything it stands for.As for putting a metal roof on the car this would simply kill the value off the car I'm really hopping someone can comment on this as I also thought manufacturers had to produce parts for a Minium off 10 years!:(

CA Automotive still sell the oem CSL roof,£9989+vat :119::119:

Csl spurs 29-01-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounce (Post 133413)
CA Automotive still sell the oem CSL roof,£9989+vat :119::119:

Is that £999 + vat ?

NZ_M3 29-01-2013 10:44 PM

Sounds about right (see BMW ETK below) ... there's actually more than just the roof that are no longer produced - although a bit strange if you ask me given that BMW built their own carbon fibre production facility when they introduced the E9X M3 ....

Things like the aluminium rear wishbone is also out of production apparently - I've had a set on order for a while now and I don't fancy the chance of them ever turning up ...

The car's 10 years old, you can't expect BMW to be making bits and pieces for it still and beyond. It'll eventually end up at their Classics division, where they can then charge many times more for parts that you need.

I am going to buy a spare car for parts soon I think :whistle:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps04edb1c9.jpg

Bounce 29-01-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csl spurs (Post 133417)
Is that £999 + vat ?

Just had a look on their site,there is no price,my mistake:-Dthat price was for a wide body kit,:whistle:They have them though.;)

shane@mbtech 29-01-2013 10:56 PM

Might shelve all my csl bits. Got to be worth more in 15 yrstime:smokin:

Yanto 29-01-2013 11:13 PM

Surely this'll start increasing number of Cat D's for minor offs ?

chrisburns 29-01-2013 11:32 PM

Not great news for you. However this is the beginning of the CSL becoming a true classic. As time goes on the cars and there components will become more & more rare & eventually very hard to get thus the value will soar.
Look at the RS guys the prices parts for their cars command.

Yep, buckle your seats lads :hahaha:

rstoughy 30-01-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 133407)
Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

Dont, not yet anyway :wink:

83SY 30-01-2013 07:18 AM

Sounds like a 2nd one is your only option.
Fortunately it's not a part that shows signs of wear.

Pooky 30-01-2013 08:25 AM

With most of these type of specials the car manufacturers make the parts when the cars are built, including spares. It doesn't work financially to manufacture small numbers of spares, or a one off, as they are needed.

So, most of the special parts will have been made 10 years ago, and then stored, and then as they are needed they are drawn from this stock. Normally you can spot this process when spares are restricted to the vehicle's VIN at the dealer. This prevents the stock getting used for other cars.

Obviously the manufacture has to figure out what spares they need over a certain period but it will mean these spares have a finite life, after a certain time they're all gone.

I'm sure that not all CSL spares will be like this (and I don't know how exactly BMW have controlled the spares) but I also suspect a great deal are, so worth holding onto whatever you have.

alexk 30-01-2013 08:38 AM

Hm,

I would expect it would be built when ordered.
At least that is what happened with my extra set of front flaps that took 8 months to arrive.
Let me check about the roof and get back to you.

I would be really shocked if BMW would deny delivering basic components of the car (bumpers, roof etc).
We are not talking about a bolt, we are talking about a roof now.

0836whimper 30-01-2013 08:44 AM

What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

83SY 30-01-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0836whimper (Post 133448)
What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

Thats a good point! note to self... dont roll the CSL :(

0836whimper 30-01-2013 09:22 AM

I'll be checking my house for loose roof tiles tonight.
And let's hope one of those freak hail-storms doesn't happen.

chrisburns 30-01-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0836whimper (Post 133448)
What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

They revert to using normal M3 components, well in the case of the CSL anyway.

Neil M 30-01-2013 11:10 AM

CA still have it listed under their 'OEM' category, however I would think this pre-susposes that the part is still available from BMW, price: £1,263.70
http://www.ca-int.co.uk/products-Y2F...wX2lkPTY2.html

CraigMillwardCroft 30-01-2013 03:07 PM

Mark needs to get a bigger workshop to be able to fit the roof jobs in :thumbs:

83SY 30-01-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigMillwardCroft (Post 133466)
Mark needs to get a bigger workshop to be able to fit the roof jobs in :thumbs:

Those big fingers will be working over time :notworthy:

Mark CSL 30-01-2013 03:33 PM

I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:

Barry C 30-01-2013 04:58 PM

I always thought they were sellling the roof's way to cheap. 900 quid is cheap, it's nearly the same price as the flippers, diffuser, console etc

It should be a few grand easily. That would keep the riff raff away from sticking them on their M3's:blalalala:

Levente 30-01-2013 05:29 PM

yes the roof price suprised me too, its relativly cheap compared to other carbon parts of the csl. for example the carbon side of the door costs 5000 euro here. wtf :119:

s1csl 30-01-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark CSL (Post 133476)
I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:

I didnt think bmw would sell csl parts unless you owned one ?

Bounce 30-01-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1csl (Post 133522)
I didnt think bmw would sell csl parts unless you owned one ?

They only asked for a vin number,then you could get anything CSL.Shame really.

Csl spurs 30-01-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexk (Post 133447)
Hm,

I would expect it would be built when ordered.
At least that is what happened with my extra set of front flaps that took 8 months to arrive.
Let me check about the roof and get back to you.

I would be really shocked if BMW would deny delivering basic components of the car (bumpers, roof etc).
We are not talking about a bolt, we are talking about a roof now.

That would be great if you cold look into it for me :beer:

CSLSEM3 31-01-2013 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark CSL (Post 133476)
I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:


At least one roof made it into the US via the dealer network but then BMWUSA caught on and restricted all CSL parts from import into the US.

Even with a genuine vin you can't get CSL parts here in the US (ask me how I know).

They took it one step farther and excluded all non-US parts under the excuse that they are not US DOT federalized for sale and therefor would open a can of liability worms. Every once in while you can sneak a harmless part into the system, but its rare.

From my experience with NLA E30 SportEvo parts, BMW will wait for the request que to fill up to some critical mass and then reproduce a missing part. This happened with SportEvo rear spoilers in th past and more recently with Nagaro Silver 16in wheels. (After we found the wheels had become available again, some friends and I ordered a pallet full to put away!) :partyman:

alexk 31-01-2013 03:05 PM

I am checking about the roof availability guys.
I will have soon some news.

Straightsix 31-01-2013 05:37 PM

Is all these Mickey Mouse people with regular M3s trying to make it look CSL

Barry C 31-01-2013 06:16 PM

Why do we even care? It's not as if any of us need a new roof? Does the OP have a CSL? why the need for a new roof?

If my CSL needed a new roof, it would probably be a wreck!:wink:

Mark CSL 31-01-2013 08:00 PM

Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

Yanto 31-01-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry C (Post 133679)
Why do we even care? It's not as if any of us need a new roof? Does the OP have a CSL? why the need for a new roof?

If my CSL needed a new roof, it would probably be a wreck!:wink:

Member on here had on after cracked skin and water getting in. Thread somewhere .

Bounce 31-01-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanto (Post 133711)
Member on here had on after cracked skin and water getting in. Thread somewhere .

Here is an old thread.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4411

Straightsix 31-01-2013 11:06 PM

:thumbs:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark CSL (Post 133709)
Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

M3 CS is a good car mate

KPNUTZ 31-01-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark CSL (Post 133709)
Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

£110 for a carbon roof?? Surely a typo?

0836whimper 31-01-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexk (Post 133667)
I am checking about the roof availability guys.
I will have soon some news.

Thanks.

Would be good if we could get a definitive view from BMW on all the CSL specific parts and whether they will supply them.

No idea how you go about that though


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