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flow 04-11-2009 06:12 PM

M3 gts
 
Very nice move BMW !
I like it alot .


http://www.bmw.tv/com/article/BMW+M3...=2&channelID=2

kbird 04-11-2009 06:15 PM

GREAT FIND!!!

My deposit down first thing tomorrow....

flow 04-11-2009 06:18 PM

Rumors are first delivery around May 2010 anda price of €110.000 . :thumbs:

kbird 04-11-2009 06:21 PM

Loads more info here https://www.m-power.com/_open/b/home.jsp?lang=en

Craig 04-11-2009 06:39 PM

I WANT ONE!!!!

Look's like I have finally found something to look forward to lol.

shimmy 04-11-2009 06:54 PM

https://www.m-power.com/imageDispatc..._2018_2169.jpg


MPW: What does that mean in practical terms?

Segler: The BMW M3 GTS which we are currently preparing in our BMW M production workshop is a response to frequently expressed customer wishes. This M3 is even hotter: lower weight, more power - including an increase in capacity - and lots of technical details which were only previously available on the tuning market, if at all. Complex and highly individual offers are available ex works.


MPW: What other features does the BMW M3 GTS offer?

Segler: We have a chassis which can be adjusted in compression and rebound, the car is fitted with a fixed caliper brake with six pistons at the front and four at the rear, and the rear silencer is made of titanium. The aerodynamics can be adjusted at the front and rear. We provide 6-point seatbelts for the racing bucket seats, a bolted roll-over protection structure is installed as is a fire extinguisher.


MPW: A nice package which ought to have a broad appeal.

Segler: Yes, I strongly believe it will. If there is a detail here or there which is not to somebody’s liking, that’s not the end of the world. What we are presenting is a standard configuration. If necessary, we are flexible enough to respond to specific requests, too. After all, these vehicles are built in the BMW M production workshops - where we built the M3 GT4, too.


MPW: Was that what sparked off the idea for the M3 GTS?

Segler: Partly, yes. We’ve known about fans who would like more for a long time now. There are some who would like a model which is even closer to motor racing. They want to drive the car to the race track, take part in a race and then drive home again - theoretically that is possible with the BMW M3 GTS. That’s the classic club sports idea, if you like. But collectors will also be interested in this fascinating automobile.

shimmy 04-11-2009 06:55 PM

but how much MORE POWER and LESS WEIGHT and INCREASED CAPACITY???

kbird 04-11-2009 06:58 PM

4.4L

shimmy 04-11-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbird (Post 34604)
4.4L


4.4 litres and 450bhp and 1490kg

302bhp/tonne

Andyk 04-11-2009 07:20 PM

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

_Nathan_ 04-11-2009 07:36 PM

http://www.skiddmark.com/?p=4986

I want one.

_Nathan_ 04-11-2009 07:39 PM

In 3 years when they are £50k ;)

phat///M3 04-11-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_ (Post 34619)
In 3 years when they are £50k ;)

+1

glendog74 04-11-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_ (Post 34619)
In 3 years when they are £50k ;)

+2 :drool:

alexk 04-11-2009 09:51 PM

I envy the brakes. Nothing else.

karbonkid 04-11-2009 09:57 PM

Now that is what im talking about. :drool:

mattCSLnut 04-11-2009 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_ (Post 34615)


Sorry but I don't :blalalala: I LOVE my CSL far too much :drool:

TANKSLAPPER 04-11-2009 10:06 PM

It looks like my CLS, but only 110 kgs heavier and 80k more expensive.

All for 10 sec faster around the Ring, " Fooking you got to be joking"
















I'll buy one LOL

NZ_M3 04-11-2009 10:16 PM

Time to trade the CSL me thinks!!!

shimmy 04-11-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TANKSLAPPER (Post 34646)
It looks like my CLS, but only 110 kgs heavier and 80k more expensive.

All for 10 sec faster around the Ring, " Fooking you got to be joking"

but its power to weight is better than CSL, E92 M3, M5, M6, 996 GT3, 996 GT3RS, 997 GT3, a :thumbs:(none of which are over 300 bhp/tonne)

If only they looked better:bigcry:

glendog74 04-11-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 34649)
but its power to weight is better than CSL, E92 M3, M5, M6, 996 GT3, 996 GT3RS, 997 GT3, and even the 997 GT3RS :thumbs:(none of which are over 300 bhp/tonne)

You need to get out more Shim... :smt101

shimmy 04-11-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glendog74 (Post 34650)
You need to get out more Shim... :smt101



keep telling the wife that but she wont give me the padlock key:bigcry:

englebert 04-11-2009 10:54 PM

I got excited, then i read further and saw almost 1500kg and over £100k?

I don't know if some of you just love Beemers, but you could get a GTR and another car on top of that...

At least the CSL was cheaper than a GT3 RS, now they expect you to pay more? I'm not sure how that got past the drawing board. Why not just release the GT4 as a road car... it doesn't cost a great deal.

shimmy 04-11-2009 11:01 PM

power to weight is fooking good imho and 1480 kg is only a can of beans heavier than CSL

i think 450bhp doesnt sound like they have pushed the limits but with a 4.4litre you probably have a load more torque

price is silly:hahaha:

but the Nissan will still be a Nissan in 3 years breaking down at every trackday and chaved up

_Nathan_ 04-11-2009 11:06 PM

I'd rather have one of these than the nissan even if it is slower, any car with front driveshafts is gay :P

englebert 04-11-2009 11:11 PM

The CSL was already heading in the wrong direction though, it is hardly a deft tool on track. Now it's another £50k for a trolley handle and nice wheels.

I suppose there is always a car for somebody, and maybe the GTS is an answer for some. I could do a lot with £100k though. A decent Caterham for track, as Rangie to tow it and a second hand CSL for the weekends all safely under budget!

_Nathan_ 04-11-2009 11:23 PM

I have a choice, if I want to get a fast road car I have to give up any idea of racing, not a hope of that happening, there is only so fast you can drive on the road before you get locked up and trackdays seem gay once you've been smoked by an Orange Arrows F1 car through the old hairpin on a test day. I'll have to stick to my £276 a month lease 3 series touring for the moment :(

shimmy 04-11-2009 11:52 PM

Nathan

you'd get smoked in any road or race car by an F1 Arrows car, even your fine machine

_Nathan_ 04-11-2009 11:55 PM

But it is an awesome sight and not one you'd ever get on a trackday, get yer license and come testing, I'm sure I can sort a deal to share a day in my car at Donny, get some good data and retire for a pie and a pint :D

AlexGTT 05-11-2009 12:12 AM

I like the idea and the fact that BMW seem to be addressing the definate wrong direction of the M division with X6/X5-M's, etc.

But, 100k is too much and weight is still too much.

Would still like one though.:whistle:

AlexGTT 05-11-2009 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by englebert (Post 34657)
The CSL was already heading in the wrong direction though, it is hardly a deft tool on track.

When a CSL was at least 150kg's lighter than a std M3 that was hardly heading in the wrong direction.

Saying it's hardly a deft tool on track, surely that's all relative? A GT3 RS isn't deft either compared to a Caterham R500, which isn't either next to a Caparo or Radical SR8. But a CSL is fun on track and very nicely balanced. Isn't that all that matters?

$w!ft 05-11-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 34649)
but its power to weight is better than CSL, E92 M3, M5, M6, 996 GT3, 996 GT3RS, 997 GT3, a :thumbs:(none of which are over 300 bhp/tonne)

If only they looked better:bigcry:


umm the 997 GT3 RS is over 300bhp/tonne I believe,

435bhp/450bhp (new one) 415bhp old one, 1375kg

alexk 05-11-2009 07:44 AM

We had the other thread with pics of it :)
Who would imagine it's an original BMW car, with this ridiculous spoiler in the trunk ?
I think they could do better with that.

I do like that is has brakes (FINALLY) and I feel really sad that our CSLs have this single-piston jokes that Fuchsrohre loves.
I do like that is has titanium exhaust.
I's still heavy (a CSL is 100 kilos lighter than this and it has rear seats).
The engine is HUGE (I guess soon we will see M3 coupe with 5 liter engine !!!).

Despite that we don't know the exact differences that it has from the standard M3, I wanted to ask the following.
How much would it cost to convert an M3 coupe to something similar ?

I am happy with my CSL and I am planning to buy a second and a third one (2 greys, 1 black).

_Nathan_ 05-11-2009 08:14 AM

Being cynical I wonder if the displacement change is so the ALMS and FIA programs can run a bigger engine? They could've got 450bhp from the 4.0L easily enough.

Paul Eggleton 05-11-2009 08:50 AM

The increase in capacity goes against the rumours of looking at smaller, forced induction, engines for the M engines - for emissions purposes.

I see this as one last hurrah before they go down this route, and this will be the signature car to do it.

amar7274 05-11-2009 10:34 AM

Sounds fantastic :thumbs: looks a lot better in White than Orange.
£100k :banghead: that's ridiculously overpriced, still want one though :drool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPyLZj6HuLU

The Gorilla 05-11-2009 01:44 PM

Hi,

Not sure about this ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=20933

You would want more power or less weight to be
in the CSL Ring lap times.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

mattCSLnut 05-11-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gorilla (Post 34699)
Hi,

Not sure about this ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=20933

You would want more power or less weight to be
in the CSL Ring lap times.

Regards,

The Gorilla.


Reading between the lines of the PH article, they rightfully give full respect to our M3 CSLs :supz: who's Ring times they haven't as yet beaten. I hope it stays that way :whistle:

mattCSLnut 05-11-2009 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amar7274 (Post 34680)
Sounds fantastic :thumbs: looks a lot better in White than Orange.
£100k :banghead: that's ridiculously overpriced, still want one though :drool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPyLZj6HuLU


It does sound great :thumbs: but then so did my 928 at a fraction of the cost :supz: £100 000 is just way too much, almost double of a regular E92 M3, which BMW struggle to shift as it is. Might end up being rarer then M3 CSL though :hahaha:

SIEN 05-11-2009 02:07 PM

Love it, and even more so love the fact it is over £100k.

The owners who were considering purchasing an E46 CSL are not in the same target range as those that would consider 100k on a second car so hopefully won't effect all our residuals too much!


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