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martin thomas 06-10-2009 08:41 PM

Average cost of a seasons racing?
 
A bit vague but here goes.
How much would it cost me roughly to compete in the csl cup next year?
assuming i don't have any major mechanical failures/crashes.

regards

martin

shimmy 06-10-2009 09:20 PM

martin

in what way would you compete?
  • standard or modified class,
  • buy car, develop car or buy seat
  • have BMS, TMS, Geoff Steele, Simpsons look after you car or do it yourself
i think that depending upon you answers above the answer could be pretty different (and whether youll get the boys to admit the cost on line is another thing)

my guess is between £2k-5K per weekend on top of the race car purchase and repairs

martin thomas 06-10-2009 09:30 PM

Shimmy, Thanks for the reply. I would be in standard class and look after the car myself. I would buy a car that has been freshly prepared.

Regards

Martin

Curly 06-10-2009 09:35 PM

just a quick rough calculation i competed in 5 rounds

entry fees - £2000
tyres (2 sets) - £1800
hotel - £ 1200
camping - £ 0
petrol 2 star - £180
thorneys buffet - free
brake pads £400

glendog74 06-10-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontdobends (Post 32005)
thorneys buffet - free

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

shimmy 06-10-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontdobends (Post 32005)
just a quick rough calculation i competed in 5 rounds

entry fees - £2000
tyres (2 sets) - £1800
hotel - £ 1200
camping - £ 0
petrol 2 star - £180
thorneys buffet - free
brake pads £400

and all tax deductable :thumbs:



how on earth, by the way can you only spend £180 on fuel

i reckon on track 16 laps x 3 sessions x 2 miles x 5 weekends = 480 miles

480 miles / 7 mpg x £5 = £342 and then add travel to and from 5 circuits gotta be another £250 = £600 on fuel minimum :smokin:

Hazy 06-10-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 32002)

my guess is between £2k-5K per weekend on top of the race car purchase and repairs

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry: it best not be :banghead:

I would plan on £20k for a prepped car and Im hoping around £1k per meet without repairs/damage. I'm lucky coz for the first year me and Radders are sharing the costs and the driving, if we like it, the E36 racecar will be sold and get a car each....

shimmy 06-10-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazy (Post 32014)
:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry: it best not be :banghead:

I would plan on £20k for a prepped car and Im hoping around £1k per meet without repairs/damage. I'm lucky coz for the first year me and Radders are sharing the costs and the driving, if we like it, the E36 racecar will be sold and get a car each....

Hazy, i am only watching the guys do it and if you are prepared to look after your own 'team' and be happy with competing rather than winning at all costs then per weekend;

entry fees = £400
fuel = £120 (cheaper than trackdays)
hotels = £80
pads/discs = £200 average
tyres = £450
wets = £150
= £1400 miminum even on Curlys pretend budget

Hazy 06-10-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 32018)
Hazy, i am only watching the guys do it and if you are prepared to look after your own 'team' and be happy with competing rather than winning at all costs then per weekend;

entry fees = £400
fuel = £120 (cheaper than trackdays)
hotels = £80
pads/discs = £200 average
tyres = £450
wets = £150
= £1400 miminum even on Curlys pretend budget

Cheers Shim:thumbs:

All being well I should have a major sponsor to help out with car prep and race fees, fuel/hotels and tyres will go through my company so it should be gown to beer money and free Thorney buffet if I get invited :thumbs:

Just given a finance broker £100k+ of business, Ive told him he has to get his hand in his pocket too ;)

_Nathan_ 06-10-2009 10:48 PM

You forgot testing, insurance, oil changes, replacing bearings, punctures, transport, pies, renting transponder + no doubt some more.

Hazy 06-10-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_ (Post 32023)
You forgot testing, insurance, oil changes, replacing bearings, punctures, transport, pies, renting transponder + no doubt some more.

Shit.


















Forgot to factor pies in :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

shimmy 06-10-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_ (Post 32023)
You forgot testing, insurance, oil changes, replacing bearings, punctures, transport, pies, renting transponder + no doubt some more.

yep but on purpose as doing it a la Curly

testing - just your trackday budget
insurance - if you bother
oil changes, bearingsm punctures, bushes - where my £2k originally come from
transport -trailer bought with car (capital cost)
pies - Curly takes sardine sandwiches
transponder = ok

Thorney 06-10-2009 10:56 PM

A bit doped up to answer fully now but will post up complete breakdown tomorrow. There are a range of options which vary in cost obviously.

Thorney 06-10-2009 10:57 PM

ooh I have a nice avatar, who did dat den?:thumbs:

shimmy 06-10-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 32035)
ooh I have a nice avatar, who did dat den?:thumbs:

nothing there

you are imagining it;)

go back to the drugs:smokin:

Hazy 06-10-2009 11:03 PM

I have a 7.5t truck to cart the car round, but I'm looking for something with living quarters like this perhaps or maybe a 40ft trailer..

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...ANSPORTER.html

windy 07-10-2009 12:08 AM

Pity you missed out on this...

ebay


:supz:

Hazy 07-10-2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 32055)
Pity you missed out on this...

ebay


:supz:


thats nice :thumbs:

Thorney 07-10-2009 09:17 AM

OK, racing budget, assuming you own your own car, per weekend:

1. Entry fees, £450
2. Tyres (one set per weekend but will last longer) £977
3. Fuel - £100
4. Consumeables (brake pads mainly) - £400
5. Personal expenses (food drink accomodation) £200

Optional:

1. Friday test day £235
2. Insurance £750 (for weekend, 10% excess)

We are offering two further options next year:

Full support:
1 x dedicated race tech
1 x dedicated data engineer
Full corporate hospitality, awning etc
Team manager, full management of your car from arrival to leaving including scrutineering and anything £1500 per weekend (including Friday test)

If we provide the car £2500 per weekend.

So onwing the car is cheapest but for £2500 per weekend you can rent one of ours with full support or we can support you and your car.

We are also selling one of our cars so we can prepare our E92, full modified class car, multiple race wins, PM me for details.

DazBlackCSL 07-10-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 32035)
ooh I have a nice avatar, who did dat den?:thumbs:


I thought that looks good ! Possibly Mark or Neil having a tweaky :whistle:

Curly 07-10-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 32013)
and all tax deductable :thumbs:



how on earth, by the way can you only spend £180 on fuel

i reckon on track 16 laps x 3 sessions x 2 miles x 5 weekends = 480 miles

480 miles / 7 mpg x £5 = £342 and then add travel to and from 5 circuits gotta be another £250 = £600 on fuel minimum :smokin:

cos i'm such a smooth driver:smokin:plus i allways nick a few jerry can's off steve's trailer:whistle:

Steve Gill 08-10-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontdobends (Post 32090)
cos i'm such a smooth driver:smokin:plus i allways nick a few jerry can's off steve's trailer:whistle:

I was wondering why fuel was my largest expense item this year :hahaha:

shimmy 08-10-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Gill (Post 32322)
I was wondering why fuel was my largest expense item this year :hahaha:


funny coz Thorney was just thinkin the same about his buffet :thumbs:

Steve Gill 08-10-2009 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 32323)
funny coz Thorney was just thinkin the same about his buffet :thumbs:

PMSL :hahaha:


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