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Chad 10-03-2016 04:01 PM

Smg fail
 
Hi bin meaning to post this not sure how many owners had this smg fail snapped gear selector compression Spring Stops proper signal to gps switch as it registers wrong position so smg fail light goes on. Then no gear selection. If anybody interested see pictures on Chad album

Yanto 10-03-2016 08:57 PM

Come again ?

shimmy 10-03-2016 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanto (Post 193473)
Come again ?

i spent all day resisting typing that :banghead::thumbs:

Chad 10-03-2016 09:24 PM

SMg fail
 
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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 193474)
i spent all day resisting typing that :banghead::thumbs:

Hi. Tried to load image of snapped Spring,but not sure how to do that . £4. Fix for all owners that have had SMg failures, Spring sits in side of gearbox, held in place behind knock in plug. Did fix on my csl after loads of pissing about with SMg pump etc. In the end just a spring did the job Chad

Bounce 10-03-2016 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 193474)
i spent all day resisting typing that :banghead::thumbs:

:hahaha::hahaha:

Stumpy 11-03-2016 09:05 PM

That the Detent (?!) spring or summink?

Had to replace mine last year.

shimmy 11-03-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumpy (Post 193501)
That the Detent (?!) spring or summink?

Had to replace mine last year.

Dope

Chad 11-03-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193477)
Hi. Tried to load image of snapped Spring,but not sure how to do that . £4. Fix for all owners that have had SMg failures, Spring sits in side of gearbox, held in place behind knock in plug. Did fix on my csl after loads of pissing about with SMg pump etc. In the end just a spring did the job Chad

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Originally Posted by Stumpy (Post 193501)
That the Detent (?!) spring or summink?

Had to replace mine last year.

Top Spring that sits behind knock in plug, pushes pin with barrel bearing, the one that's a twat to fit.
Still' better than SMg pump, gearbox etc. DIY £4. Chad

Chad 13-03-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193477)
Hi. Tried to load image of snapped Spring,but not sure how to do that . £4. Fix for all owners that have had SMg failures, Spring sits in side of gearbox, held in place behind knock in plug. Did fix on my csl after loads of pissing about with SMg pump etc. In the end just a spring did the job Chad

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193505)
Top Spring that sits behind knock in plug, pushes pin with barrel bearing, the one that's a twat to fit.
Still' better than SMg pump, gearbox etc. DIY £4. Chad

Image of gear position locking pin,and snapped compression Spring, how many owners have done this fix ?

mattCSLnut 24-03-2016 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193561)
Image of gear position locking pin,and snapped compression Spring, how many owners have done this fix ?

Hi mate
What were the symptoms before you narrowed it down to the busted spring ?

Chad 24-03-2016 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mattCSLnut (Post 193860)
Hi mate
What were the symptoms before you narrowed it down to the busted spring ?

Hi Matt problem I got ,when changing gears be ok for first few changes, then go to false neutral no drive and cog light on. Role to side of road,stop motor leave for a few mins Ignition back on, would alway be able to re select neutral for restart. Drive off again, Then just repeat same fault over and over again. Took me about four hrs to do, as you need to drop prop etc to get to side of box,and lower gearbox as far as possible to to pry out knock in plug to get to Spring, Knowing what I know now that F ..kin £4 Spring should always be first job with any SMg fault Chad

Chad 24-03-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mattCSLnut (Post 193860)
Hi mate
What were the symptoms before you narrowed it down to the busted spring ?

Hi Matt problem I got ,when changing gears be ok for first few changes, then go to false neutral no drive and cog light on. Role to side of road,stop motor leave for a few mins Ignition back on, would alway be able to re select neutral for restart. Drive off again, Then just repeat same fault over and over again. Took me about four hrs to do, as you need to drop prop etc to get to side of box,and lower gearbox as far as possible to to pry out knock in plug to get to Spring, Knowing what I know now that F ..kin £4 Spring should always be first job with any SMg fault Chad

mattCSLnut 24-03-2016 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193866)
Hi Matt problem I got ,when changing gears be ok for first few changes, then go to false neutral no drive and cog light on. Role to side of road,stop motor leave for a few mins Ignition back on, would alway be able to re select neutral for restart. Drive off again, Then just repeat same fault over and over again. Took me about four hrs to do, as you need to drop prop etc to get to side of box,and lower gearbox as far as possible to to pry out knock in plug to get to Spring, Knowing what I know now that F ..kin £4 Spring should always be first job with any SMg fault Chad

THANX for sharing the info mate :beer: It's alway good to know stuff like this.

Chad 25-03-2016 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mattCSLnut (Post 193895)
THANX for sharing the info mate :beer: It's alway good to know stuff like this.

Hope info can save owners some cash. Have spent a lot of time pulling smg pump completely to bits,changed gps switches, changed clutch slave cylinder and I 'think' worked out how it all works now, it's a very clever but simple system macanicly. And it can all be put back together without having to run fancy programs, am prity sure a lot owners have spent a lot of cash on needless smg pumps and gearboxes, when a simple Spring would have done the job

Chad 29-03-2016 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 193905)
Hope info can save owners some cash. Have spent a lot of time pulling smg pump completely to bits,changed gps switches, changed clutch slave cylinder and I 'think' worked out how it all works now, it's a very clever but simple system macanicly. And it can all be put back together without having to run fancy programs, am prity sure a lot owners have spent a lot of cash on needless smg pumps and gearboxes, when a simple Spring would have done the job

Hi just bin reading page92 in this months bmw car mag, the very same smg fault I had. How many Csl owners and m3 owners have had this fault ? Chad

Chad 16-09-2017 03:17 PM

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Thought I'd put some pictures to this for anybody not understanding post. Bottom picture ,my busted spring New spring above it. :thumbs:

shimmy 17-09-2017 05:09 AM

Spring is definitely broken, thats my technical input for the day!

Chad 17-09-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 201714)
Spring is definitely broken, thats my technical input for the day!

Just think of it as a busted front coilover spring , fooked up preload, going into a bend hot, car bouncing all over the place. That's what smg gearbox does if that little spring snaps , tried to explain it simply :thumbs: ps shimmy any races planned for oulton park


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