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david
29-08-2008, 03:57 PM
after looking around the Mtorque forum and the retro fit kit for Bmw E46, I looked around and took contact with one german dealer to got a quote and more informations on that performance brake kit..

the kit BMW® "big brake kit" Referenced: 34 00 0 429 573 is avaibable for all M3 E46 standard, CS/Csl and convertible

the kit includes

2 front caliper 6pots
2 rear caliper 2pots (per opposition)
2 high performance rotors in 345mm x 28mm slotted/drilled
2 high perforance rear rotor 328mm x 20mm
all upgraded racing pads front and rear
and all hardwares, bolts, nuts, brakes lines and extra stufff

the quote (german--> british) price in euro

Kostenvoranschlag Leistungsdatum : 28.08.08

Fahrz.Nr. Modell/Typ Fahrg.-Nr./Erstzul M3 E46

Beide Bremssättel vorn aus- und einbauen/ersetzen 54,45
Beide Bremssättel hinten aus- und einbauen/ersetzen 42,35
Bremsscheiben vorn und hinten ersetzen 127,05
3400550 Bremssystem mit DSC entlüften 54,45

SPORTBREMSE COMPETITION 1800,00

83130006606 BREMSFLÜSSIG: 9,00
Zwischensumme: 2087,30
Gesamt Lohn EUR: 278,30
Gesamt Teile EUR: 1809,00
19,00% MwSt von 2087,30 = 396,59 Gesamt Steuer EUR 396,59
Endsumme EUR: 2483,89

translation

hand/job cost:

caliper replacement front: 54,45
caliper replacement rear: 42,35
rotor replacement: 127,05
brake fluide change over: 54,45
bmw performance brake: 1800,00
VAT: 278,30

Total cost installed 2483,89--> that's 2,001.64£

you have option on the color of the caliper 4 color available

and that's what you get ruffly:

http://i52.servimg.com/u/f52/11/72/83/81/retro_10.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/steepy_photos/Photo%20M3/Freins/BMWperformance0.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/steepy_photos/Photo%20M3/Freins/BMWperformance.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/steepy_photos/Photo%20M3/Freins/BMWperformance2.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/steepy_photos/Photo%20M3/Freins/BMWperformance1.jpg

look's pretty good and price is rather interresting.

what do you think..?

M3CSLIRL
29-08-2008, 05:09 PM
2000 Sterling?? They look great and might be warranty covered being BMW parts! Well impressed! :thumbs:

Andyk
29-08-2008, 05:12 PM
They do look good...wonder how they compare with the AP kit as price is pretty close.

david
29-08-2008, 06:17 PM
yes andy, but for 2000£ you get front and rear installed@ Bmw dealer with Bmw warranty and TüV certificat and it's certified Bmw/german quality parts. AP are great, nothing to say, but you only get the front set for around 2200£


Bmw take a big deal on these brakes, they are options under an other reference for the 335i and the 135i and theses 2 cars are near the performances of E46 M3 for the 335i and E92 M3 for the 135i..

On of my friend is taking an option on a set shortly, will forward his feedback when installed on his M3 E46

Andyk
29-08-2008, 06:40 PM
Yep just read it fully....sounds good for front and rear. Will look forward to the report.

rs32
30-08-2008, 12:14 AM
what a coincendence - have just been discussing this with a main dealer today.

no doubt they will seriously improve the braking behaviour.

although saying that, upgrading the hoses/fluid/pads gives you 50% of the improvement for 20% of the cost.

Andyk
30-08-2008, 06:26 AM
although saying that, upgrading the hoses/fluid/pads gives you 50% of the improvement for 20% of the cost.

RS32, was thinking of taking this route first before spending loads of dosh on discs to see how I get on. Would is the best pad upgrade for mainly road use..any advice?

csljoe
30-08-2008, 04:11 PM
I would deffinately be interested in having a set of these fitted, i was going to go for a set of AP's early next year, but i may now go for these, especially if you get the warranty etc.

Joe

rs32
31-08-2008, 09:06 AM
RS32, was thinking of taking this route first before spending loads of dosh on discs to see how I get on. Would is the best pad upgrade for mainly road use..any advice?

On my previous M3 I went for Pagid Blue pads with the goodridge hoses + ATE Blue fluid. However the pads squeal like mad after a while - so for the time ebing on the CSL I have just gone for hoses/fluid.

Will be trying either the Ferrodo DS2500 or Performance Friction pads when my free set from BMW wears out :thumbs:

Andyk
31-08-2008, 12:09 PM
Cheers rs32..think I will pop down to Simpson motorsport this week and see what advice they can give.

Rags
01-09-2008, 11:57 AM
Can you confirm if this is definitely applicable for the CSL?

Also, the discs are the same size as the standard CSL brakes, presumably the fact that they are 6 pots make a considerable difference?

Thanks

NZ_M3
10-09-2008, 03:28 AM
That part number is available .. but it's just a CSL front brake upgrade for the normal M3 ...

The BMW/Brembo 6 pot performance brake isn't available for the E46 series ...

Link to the part here
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BL92&mospid=47621&btnr=34_1629&hg=34&fg=95&hl=1

chillo
09-10-2008, 01:34 PM
so the front calipers are £54, rears £42 each and just bolt straight on as the disc is the same size as standard csl discs?

What sort of pads fit these calipers?

Rags
09-10-2008, 03:38 PM
This thread is misleading.

The BMW performance kit is basically the CSL brake set up for an e46 m3, great.

No use to any csl owners.

chillo
10-10-2008, 12:15 PM
csl doesnt have 6pot fronts and 2 pots rears tho??

I would have the better calipers if they just bolt on and work with standard size csl discs

Andyk
10-10-2008, 05:24 PM
csl doesnt have 6pot fronts and 2 pots rears tho??

I would have the better calipers if they just bolt on and work with standard size csl discs

Agree if they fit I like them to. I though this upgrade was only for 1 series and the new 3 series though as part of the performance range.

SpineOnABap
10-10-2008, 05:56 PM
You can fit almost anything, from any manufacturer.

MaKSiNG
11-10-2008, 11:05 PM
csl doesnt have 6pot fronts and 2 pots rears tho??

I have to concur with 'chillo'.
The standard CSL brakes are just bigger discs on the front than the stock M3.
The are single piston, fully floating calipers front and rear.

I was running Pagid Blue pads on the front with an otherwise complete standard set up and it was a very good set up.
I have just upgraded to APs front and rear and the difference is massive.

Don't forget the other benefit of getting rid of the standard CSL brakes is to save a whole load of unsprung weight. Anyone who has compared the weight difference between one of the massive AP front calipers and a tiny standard M3 front caliper will know what I mean :wink: