The Stephen Gill Show

[Hazy]

Anyone know when the next one is?? :gayfight:

[Thorney]

From the CSL Cup site:

The highlights programme will be on Motors TV for the following times:
Oulton Park

12/06/10 - 18.00
13/06/10 - 05.02
13/06/10 - 10.30
16/06/10 - 23.25
17/06/10 - 13.30
19/06/10 - 03.06
21/06/10 - 15.30
24/06/10 - 04.05

[Steve Gill]

It'll not be the Stephen Gill show this time thats for sure after my dismal performance at Oulton!!!! :hahaha:

[RussF]

Lol at this thread :hahaha:

[Steve Gill]

Missed it - Sky had a technical fault - who did they mention the most this time? :gayfight:

[Mark CSL]

I seen it today on sky it ant the Steve Gill show now :hahaha::hahaha:

where were you steve its not the car as it won race 2 :whistle:

[Steve Gill]

I seen it today on sky it ant the Steve Gill show now :hahaha::hahaha:

where were you steve its not the car as it won race 2 :whistle:
On a different planet Mark, on a different planet. I didn't really want to be there for race 1, my mind was on other things. Anyway, not to worry, as a result of work related pressures (make hay while the sun shines) I won't be doing anymore CSL Cup races, with perhaps the exception of Brands.

Motors TV coverage of Race 1 here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhAHEOOFwjI)

I'm reuploading race 2 to vimeo as its 13 minutes long, and youtube rejected it!

[Steve Gill]

Race 2 from Oulton Park (http://vimeo.com/12548146)

[Hazy]

Anyway, not to worry, as a result of work related pressures (make hay while the sun shines) I won't be doing anymore CSL Cup races, with perhaps the exception of Brands.



Thats such a great pity Steve, is this a definate mate?? :(

[Steve Gill]

Thats such a great pity Steve, is this a definate mate?? :(
I'm afraid so Adam :(

[cslcup]

Tis a shame Steve, hope to see you return at Brands. :)

And Adam, they seemed to miss your bright orange machine out of the footage completely! :bigcry:

CSL Cup's own in car footage from Oulton coming soon!

[TANKSLAPPER]

Lol at this thread :hahaha:

I lol at this thread on Northloop

Russ Quoted,

"I have decided that the Vauxhall Marque is a good brand to expand my business into.

Thinking of going 'Thorney Motosport' and doing both BMW and Vaux.


Thoughts?"

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::h ahaha:

[RussF]

I lol at this thread on Northloop

Russ Quoted,

"I have decided that the Vauxhall Marque is a good brand to expand my business into.

Thinking of going 'Thorney Motosport' and doing both BMW and Vaux.


Thoughts?"

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::h ahaha:

Montana (northloop member) was on my pc at work and started that thread the Git :hahaha::hahaha: Note to self... Never lever pc logged into forums :whistle:

[RussF]

[quote=Steve Gill;57685]On a different planet Mark, on a different planet. I didn't really want to be there for race 1, my mind was on other things. Anyway, not to worry, as a result of work related pressures (make hay while the sun shines) I won't be doing anymore CSL Cup races, with perhaps the exception of Brands.


Sorry to hear this Steve :bigcry:

[shimmy]

Sorry to hear this Steve :bigcry:

yep, really surprised and sorry to hear it as well Steve

another time and another place maybe :thumbs:

[Hazy]

yep, really surprised and sorry to hear it as well Steve

another time and another place maybe :thumbs:

About time you got out and did a bit Shim...perhaps rent Steves car off him?? Me Russ and Radders could do with another back marker to play with....:whistle:

[shimmy]

sorry, not enough of either of these.

http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/f3c6c7d15a50ca056eb3698a6a4067da_money410828070331 51.gif

http://thegreenroombar.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/britains_got_talent_wb.jpg

[Hazy]

And Adam, they seemed to miss your bright orange machine out of the footage completely! :bigcry:



TBH Had a good start as usual then the lighter, faster cars (better drivers too) overhauled me and I spent all the race touring round on my own with my extra 100kg of self imposed ballast :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

[Radders]

sorry, not enough of either of these.





come on you know you want to... !!! :thumbs:

money - just rob it or lend it
tallent - i aint got any i just drive it as hard as i can and pray i dont hit anything, seems to work :whistle:

[shimmy]

come on you know you want to... !!! :thumbs:

money - just rob it or lend it
tallent - i aint got any i just drive it as hard as i can and pray i dont hit anything, seems to work :whistle:


if i do it will be in somthing like this or an endurance seat or two maybe

http://www.mx-5cup.com/files/news/08-mx5-ram-r-81.jpg

[RussF]

About time you got out and did a bit Shim...perhaps rent Steves car off him?? Me Russ and Radders could do with another back marker to play with....:whistle:


Plus if we get another standard engined car we could ask for our own class:whistle:

[Hazy]

if i do it will be in somthing like this or an endurance seat or two maybe

http://www.mx-5cup.com/files/news/08-mx5-ram-r-81.jpg

that LOOKS great fun, until you put ya foot down and the elstic band masquerading as an engine breaks..... Shim these will NEVER haul your hulk about a track mate:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

Plus if we get another standard engined car we could ask for our own class:whistle:

Damn right!!

I'm still in favour of the 1400kg minimum weight, I reckon I would be near the front then :supz::hahaha::banghead:

[shimmy]

that LOOKS great fun, until you put ya foot down and the elstic band masquerading as an engine breaks..... Shim these will NEVER haul your hulk about a track mate:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:


if i loose another 2 stone ill be lighter than you - and still 6 inches taller





I'm still in favour of the 1400kg minimum weight, I reckon I would be near the front then :supz::hahaha::banghead:

yep, for about 2 corners :smokin:

[lawsy]

Sure fire way to get numbers on grid up.....

standard class, with controlled brakes, suspension.

Standard engine/exhaust.

Standard weight etc.

Controlled cage. Controlled seats.

Only thing to change would be geo settings.

Not only will it increase numbers, make for better racing it will seperate the men from the boys and stop the open wallet guys stomping ahead.
More affordable to for the paupers out there.

Not taking anything away from the decent drivers on the grids, but a more even field will make it better for all parties involved. :thumbs:



Hazy and radders, if you need a driver anytime, Im ya huckleberry.:beer:

[shimmy]

he did that last year but only two showed up and they couldnt drive for toffee!

i think economic recession may have not helped;)

[Thorney]

Would like to create the standard class again really, but without the cars interested there's not much we can do. Good luck to steve in his other racing.

We didn't control the cage but engine, suspension were all control. If we get the demand then we will reinstigate.

[windy]

Sure fire way to get numbers on grid up.....

standard class, with controlled brakes, suspension.

Standard engine/exhaust.

Standard weight etc.

Controlled cage. Controlled seats.

Only thing to change would be geo settings.

Not only will it increase numbers, make for better racing it will seperate the men from the boys and stop the open wallet guys stomping ahead.
More affordable to for the paupers out there.

Not taking anything away from the decent drivers on the grids, but a more even field will make it better for all parties involved. :thumbs:


Suppose the problem with that Shane is that if you make it too accessible, wannabe-racers like me could get involved for £15k+ race license, and end up causing inexperienced carnage to the pricier metal :whistle:

Not seen Dan for a while, but I see he's put a manual 'box in his car now – just curious but how many cars in the CSL Cup run SMG boxes?

I miss mine – when it worked...

[Thorney]

3 smg cars, Mark, Adam and Nick. The rest are 5 or 6 speed manuals and steves drenth

[_Nathan_]

Off topic but was chatting to a mate who is a designer at xtrac - their seemless shift sequential boxes are 0ms torque interuption on the way up the box and now do clutchless downshifts too! Slightly more money than a Drenth though!

The problem IMO with having a standard class is that most of the people who'd be interested have already set off down one route or another with their car and won't want to swap suspension or change rose joints back to rubber for example to fit a standard class so to make it happen in any great numbers you'd effectly end up with a "standard engine class" rather than getting parity on everything else? Maybe having similar tech rules but 2 power to weight classes would be a way round it?

[lawsy]

Off topic but was chatting to a mate who is a designer at xtrac - their seemless shift sequential boxes are 0ms torque interuption on the way up the box and now do clutchless downshifts too! Slightly more money than a Drenth though!

The problem IMO with having a standard class is that most of the people who'd be interested have already set off down one route or another with their car and won't want to swap suspension or change rose joints back to rubber for example to fit a standard class so to make it happen in any great numbers you'd effectly end up with a "standard engine class" rather than getting parity on everything else? Maybe having similar tech rules but 2 power to weight classes would be a way round it?


Yeh, maybe gone too far now, but it would make for interesting viewing.

[windy]

Yeh, maybe gone too far now, but it would make for interesting viewing.

Not from inside my bloody helmet it wouldn't! :bigcry:

[Hazy]

The problem IMO with having a standard class is that most of the people who'd be interested have already set off down one route or another with their car and won't want to swap suspension or change rose joints back to rubber for example to fit a standard class so to make it happen in any great numbers you'd effectly end up with a "standard engine class" rather than getting parity on everything else? Maybe having similar tech rules but 2 power to weight classes would be a way round it?

correct, me and Mark are already a fair way away from what would be deemed "standard" I guess, plastic windows, lightweight panels, bespoke exhausts etc etc, HOWEVER our engines and Russ' are still standard, so for me anyway, a standard engined class would be a great option, save me and Mark perhaps £10k each close season (the call has already been made LOL)

Gotta say though, on out and out speed, Tango I doesnt fair too bad against the modified cars considering it weighed 1422kg at Oulton:bigcry: (I know, resolving this as we speak :thumbs:)

I know 100% that the standard way, with just cage, suspension and brakes was the way he envisaged the series going, but thats not been the case for some reason.

If any of you are thinking of going racing, I can recommend it throughly, its THE best thing I have ever done, the whole paddock craic is great too, and in paticular the way the Thorney CSL hospitality is set up for drivers/sponsors/hangers on is just great :thumbs: The fact that me and Mark brought a second car that we cant really afford after just one race says it all really!

[Thorney]

The series was set up for standard cars, glass, low cost suspension, no engine mods (save airbox), control wheels but the fact is that in the first year we only had 2 cars in that class, which eventually dropped to one. In the off season we asked for more but everyone who was building cars was building them to the higher spec so we dropped it. The regs allow for classes to be developed where 4 or more cars run, same applies for E36 and E92 classes, where there is less than 4 cars of one class they run in the invitation class. Next weekend we have 2 E92 cars and (we hope) 5 E36 cars, so that means the E36 class runs but the E92's stay in invitation competing against Kevins E46 and another E36 that has an E46 engine in.

The 4 car rule still applies though, if we can get 1 more standard class car the class can be genereated again, however the policing will be harder. Look at Steves car, we opened up the regs to allow non standard ECU's (a massive expense compared to standard ECU) but Steve is now leaving for other reasons, same applied to another car so the change was pretty much pointless now. Its a frustrating business running a race series, I cant help feeling that the moment we make a standard class the cars will all change:bigcry: